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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 3:29 pm    Post subject: SILK SCREENING 101 by 7734 Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't see this picture in the images folder so I thought this would be a good place to post it.



On the right is Dennis from Social Distortion on the left is Glen. This picture was shot at the home of Jerry and Doyle in New Jersey.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I talked with one of the folks in Bread and Water (from Dallas, TX), who had silk-screened their new cover art onto union-made T-shirts (which they had for sale at just six bucks each!). He mentioned that the union shop is just blocks away from his house.

Anybody know of any local union garment shops?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

find 2fisted and ask him.

Union-made USA shirts cost too much to buy, that's why I get sweat-shop made shirts. If they're good enough for Kathy Lee, Nike and Addidas they're good enough for me.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How does the Rubylith get transfered to the screen?
Solvents?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep. You can hand cut it or take it to KINKOS and have them cut it on a vinyl cutter.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jzzz wrote:
How does the Rubylith get transfered to the screen?
Solvents?


If you're using photosensitive emulsion, just have your screen dry and coated, and pressed flat on a light table with the rubylith underneath.

I don't know of another way.

Lately I've been making my positives by getting photocopies on transparancies. More expensive that just photocopies on paper, but less mess since you don't need oil to make the paper translucent.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I might be wrong about the Rubylith. The film that is cut and transfered straight to the screen with solvent might go by another name. I've used Rubylith for simple hand cut 2 and 3 color illustration printing seps, but I thought the transfer stuff was called Rubylith too. Let me dig a little more, it was the 70's when I used it last and I'm sure I was baked.

UPDATE: Go here and scroll down to "Hand Cut" read the stuff below.
http://www.pneac.org/printprocesses/screen/moreinfo17.cfm

DWITT: "Lately I've been making my positives by getting photocopies on transparancies. More expensive that just photocopies on paper, but less mess since you don't need oil to make the paper translucent."

Tell me more about the oil and paper process or where you get good transparancies. Kinkos transparancies are shit.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've only ever used the hand cut film and it has always been green. My shop teacher in 1983 just referred to it as film emulsion.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

7734 wrote:
I was baked.


Me too!
I am trying to remember!
Yeah, that green stuff that you cut with a razor blade and then peeled out what you wanted to print, thats the stuff.
Thanks a heap for the replies. I have a simple, small design that I want to make for a one time use, so I want it to be as dead easy as possible.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha, ha. You guys were baked.
Hey, maybe I'm baked right now.
Or, maybe I am.

Whoa.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The oil/paper method is easy.

Get a photocopy, any photocopy, of whatever you want to print. make sure the toner is good and dark. Coat with oil, vegetable oil works best/smells the least.

Expose screen as you would any other film. The oil coated paper lets the UV rays through, and the toner blocks it. Very ghetto, but it works just fine.

We (Squad19) also are experimenting with using latex paint for ink on our posters. Add equal parts paint and waterbased ink extender, and then add some retarder (no more than %15 of final mixture)so the paint doesn't clog your screens. Makes for interesting textures.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fuck yeah! I like it, ghetto is good. Thanks
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great ghetto goodies Dwitt!

I am sorta deciding whether to invest the few bucks to make a UV light table or avoid it all together, not being sure how much I would use it.

My project is just a quick gold spraypaint job that a hard stencil would probably just screw up. I know a tape mask would (and you can't sand metal flake paint.) I read that this was originally done with gold spray and silk screen so figured this was the best way to replicate it.

Not sure which design concept I will employ, but it wont be the Gibson one as this isn't a real Gibson. Here is my most insensitive idea so far.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You want ghetto? My forrays into screening on my own (ie not in school) was to stretch a screen, draw the design on with a sharpie and then take laquer adn block out everything I didn't want to print. Then instead of ink I used acryllic paint.
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