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amy purple
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posted 08-15-2001 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amy purple   Click Here to Email amy purple     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Please tell me some interesting stories about this area!

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Barabbas
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posted 08-15-2001 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barabbas   Click Here to Email Barabbas     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
And he came out of the house and back to the car, and there she was -- dead, on the stickshift.

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DipshitLucy
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posted 08-16-2001 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DipshitLucy   Click Here to Email DipshitLucy     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Yeah, what Barabbas said, only it was a friend of my cousin's, and happened in Iowa.....

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posted 08-16-2001 02:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Reno   Click Here to Email Reno     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Word has it that Mpls. was near the top of the priority target list for Soviet missiles. (That spelling looks really strange, hmmm.) Local companies like Honeywell, Alliant Techsystems, General Mills, Control Data, Cargill and the CC Club would have been responsible for turning our fair city into a glass parking lot. I thank Ronald Reagan every morning that we got to live to see this day. I'm proud to be an American...*sniff*

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posted 08-16-2001 03:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for molly coddle   Click Here to Email molly coddle     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
we had to do a test for chemical weapons.
mpls was 4th on the list of potential targets.

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Reno
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posted 08-16-2001 03:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Reno   Click Here to Email Reno     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Jeez, we're a regular bunch of fuckin' brainiacs. A veritable font of knowledge, we TCPunks. Huzzah!

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Scotty
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posted 08-16-2001 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scotty   Click Here to Email Scotty     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Chemicals were dropped over the neighborhood with St. Stephens' Church/School (22nd/Stevens) back in the 50's, the defense dept. wanted to see the dispersal patterns. Lotsa people were unknowingly poisoned with low levels. Think it was just coincidental that Birdman and Chief Walks Alone called this neighborhood home for most of their lives?

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posted 08-16-2001 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Model50   Click Here to Email Model50     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
There was apparently a lot of gangster action around St. Paul back in the day.

There is a thread about all the underground tunnels in Minneapolis. Can someone help me out here!?

F. Scott Fitzgerald lived on Summit Avenue.
Judy Garland was born in Grand Rapids, MN (woo hoo).

The Cohen Brothers (Fargo, Big Labowski) are supposedly from St. Louis Park.

Tator Tot hotdish is apparently all the rage!

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posted 08-16-2001 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yuck Foo   Click Here to Email Yuck Foo     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
...So last week I had the photographs developed, and these little punks had my toothbrush stuck up their...

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posted 08-16-2001 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Garage Woman     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
...and the bathroom mirror was scrawled in red lipstick "welcome to the wonderful world of AIDS".....

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Scotty
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posted 08-16-2001 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scotty   Click Here to Email Scotty     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
that's not possible... Garage Woman has been dead... FOR TEN YEARS, THIS VERY DAY!

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posted 08-16-2001 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zomzom   Click Here to Email zomzom     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
FROM THAT BOTCHED KIDNEY-STEALING INCIDENT.

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Scotty
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posted 08-16-2001 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scotty   Click Here to Email Scotty     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Even tho the old "Cupola House" (24th and 4th) has been moved to..what..24th and Pills?

At night, walking by, if you listen real careful, you can still hear Grant Hart playing ragtime on the piano and wailing mournfully, and Kat screaming and throwing dishes around!

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Barabbas
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posted 08-16-2001 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barabbas   Click Here to Email Barabbas     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
...so my buddy's cousin's friend is just driving along and he sees this car with its lights off, so he flashes his headlights on and off real quick and BLAM!

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posted 08-16-2001 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for krut2u     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
and if you listen closely...you hear the rustle of the "missouri mo mo" monster in the woods around minnehaha falls.

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posted 08-16-2001 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beving   Click Here to Email Beving     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
My cousin's friend was at a party in Coon Rapids where she met a guy who knew someone who got dosed at another party and then woke up in a tub full of ice with his liver missing!

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posted 08-16-2001 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wilfulneglect   Click Here to Email wilfulneglect     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
My father was in Capones gang hanging around the gopher bar in St. Paul( use to be a speak easy). I slepted in Ma Barkers house in White Bear....you could hear her and her boys at night fighting it out with the cops......Scary Very Scary....OOOOOOOOo

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posted 08-16-2001 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for farm girl   Click Here to Email farm girl     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
DO NOT go into the bathrooms of Har Mar Mall alone. A girl using the bathroom alone was injected with something and a woman was carrying her out saying "my daughter is sick" when the real mother of the girl shows up... I believed it for years! (You gotta admit, Har Mar Mall is a very disturbing place!)

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posted 08-16-2001 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for farm girl   Click Here to Email farm girl     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
On a more realistic note, We have a ghost named Seven who lived at our house.Shortly after we moved in, when my daughter was 2, she said "there's a man upstairs. His name is Seven." We didn't think anything of it but every few days she would say something else about Seven. " His dad is named Matt. He comes with him some times." "Sometimes he goes to the numbers house to see bees and haney." On Memorial day she said he told her he didn't get any flowers on his deck. I started doing the geneology of our house for the Historical society. The house was buily in 1920 by a Swedish immigrant named MATT Lindgren. His oldest son, SVEN, lived in the house until he died in 1967, crushed to death at the granite quarries! My neighbor told me her housde had been known as the 'Honey house' because the owner raised BEES and HONEY!(Numbers House, Bees and Haney. Swedish accent!) I told several people who had known Sven, and they said he loved kids.
During this time, my daughter picked up a photo of the Lindgren family, pointed to Sven and said, "That's my Seven!" When my daughter was 4, she said Seven was going away. I got word later that his favorite brother had just died in the nursing home. She hasn't seen Seven since.

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farm girl
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posted 08-16-2001 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for farm girl   Click Here to Email farm girl     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
DO NOT go into the bathrooms of Har Mar Mall alone. A girl using the bathroom alone was injected with something and a woman was carrying her out saying "my daughter is sick" when the real mother of the girl shows up... I believed it for years! (You gotta admit, Har Mar Mall is a very disturbing place!)

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posted 08-16-2001 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jzzz   Click Here to Email Jzzz     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
The guy who built the Foshey tower named it after himself and he had gold faucets on his sink and he lived on the top floor and he bezzled alot of money and he had to jump off of it and his house had secret tunnels that went to the sewer and stuff.
(True at least about the embezzling and the secret tunnels in his house)

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posted 08-16-2001 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barabbas   Click Here to Email Barabbas     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by farm girl:
You gotta admit, Har Mar Mall is a very disturbing place!

I worked in Har-Mar for about a year and a half, and trust me -- you have no idea how creepy the bathrooms are there.

Plus, your post came through twice...bwooohoohooohahahahahhahahahahahahaha

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RC
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posted 08-16-2001 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RC     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Nice story farm girl. That one gave me chills like the ball rolling down the steps in The Changeling with George C. Scott.

Now if that blonde 7 could show up at my house Seriously, my kid said he talked to a guy named John Swanson! I don't even want to look at our homes history.

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posted 08-17-2001 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Redd   Click Here to Email Redd     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I really never knew what to think of ghosts and stuff until something happened to me a few years ago. I was staying at my brother's house. He lived in St. Paul near Como Park on Iowa Street. I actually didn't spend many nights there because I stayed at my boyfriend's house most nights. But each time I did stay at my brother's house, something invisible would hold me to my bed in the morning when I wanted to get up. I could see the time passing on my alarm clock, but I couldn't move or even say anything. I remember I would be screaming in my head for this thing to let me go. At first I was scared, but then I would just get pissed, and once I got pissed, I would slowly be able to move and get out of bed. I'd be like, "Goddammit I'm going to be late for work~!!!" And during the whole thing - which would last anywhere from 5 to 10 minutes - I could smell the distinctive scent of mens cologne - a kind that wasn't my brothers - or anything he would wear. When I was able to move, the scent would disappear within a minute. The first time it happened, I thought it was just a really bad dream that seemed real and freaky, but it happened each of the 5 times I stayed there. (I was never drinking those nights either.) After the second time, I asked my brother if anyone had complained from sleeping in that room before and he said no and mentioned all the people that have slept in that room...they were all guys. So I'm guessing that this 'guy ghost' or whatever just likes to control sleeping girls. Sick bastard. ( I swear it's true!)

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posted 08-17-2001 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mud   Click Here to Email mud     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
The Mary Tyler Moore House on 21st & Kenwod Parkway has a pool in the basement!

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posted 08-17-2001 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mud   Click Here to Email mud     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Rumor has it that the KKK used to hold rallies and burn crosses down at Hidden Beach on Cedar Lake in the '20s~I knew it was more than just the hippie vibe that was creepy there.

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posted 08-17-2001 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for autopsygrrrl   Click Here to Email autopsygrrrl     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Yeah, this girl hung herself in the bathroom at first ave...

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Jzzz
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posted 08-18-2001 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jzzz   Click Here to Email Jzzz     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
The second year of MTM the owners of the house were so Bugged by people asking to see Mary's room that they put up Scafolding scraped off half the paint and hung a huge bed sheet and spraypaint sign that said "Impeach Nixon".

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posted 08-23-2001 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laggard   Click Here to Email Laggard     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
First Avenue's website has a story about ghosts that are supposed have been seen there.
Someone also mentioned that the basement in particular creeps a lot of people out and that there are people who refuse to go down there.
Can anyone give us their paranormal 1st Ave experiences?

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Scotty
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posted 08-23-2001 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scotty   Click Here to Email Scotty     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I've heard way better First Ave ghost stories.. but one time, Superball 63 was up in that back room in the upstairs NW corner, taking pics for that Du Huskers tribute thing. There was a disco ball that had been hanging there for god knows how long, what the hell, we'll take pics underneath that. Sure enough, the wire broke and that thing fell right on my head.

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posted 08-23-2001 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jzzz   Click Here to Email Jzzz     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure that poor rigging qualifys as a paranormal experience but, wow, beaned by a mirror ball, disco dosnt suck, it gets even.

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Scotty
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posted 08-23-2001 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scotty   Click Here to Email Scotty     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
That's sort of my thinking too, but damn that thing had been hanging there for a long time, then decides to fall when I'm standing underneath it.

Either way, disco took a chunk of my scalp away!

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posted 08-23-2001 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orbit   Click Here to Email Orbit     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
One time I went down there to grab another beer, and caught this lesbian squatting in the middle of the floor with a veritable fucking lake spreading around her. I guess she was pissed off at one of the bands on the bill or something. That pee-on-beer-spill-on-dank-concrete smell still haunts me to this day, everytime I'm there.

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posted 08-24-2001 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scotty   Click Here to Email Scotty     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
At least your drum cases weren't "possessed" with the ghastly ectoplasmic liquid, like Scott McDonald's were...

Anyway, let's hear some stories! Mine was lame..(but true)

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posted 08-24-2001 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for autopsygrrrl   Click Here to Email autopsygrrrl     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Laggard:
First Avenue's website has a story about ghosts that are supposed have been seen there.

I can't find that part! Where is it?

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posted 08-27-2001 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for badgas   Click Here to Email badgas     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Redd:
I really never knew what to think of ghosts and stuff until something happened to me a few years ago. I was staying at my brother's house. He lived in St. Paul near Como Park on Iowa Street. I actually didn't spend many nights there because I stayed at my boyfriend's house most nights. But each time I did stay at my brother's house, something invisible would hold me to my bed in the morning when I wanted to get up. I could see the time passing on my alarm clock, but I couldn't move or even say anything. I remember I would be screaming in my head for this thing to let me go. At first I was scared, but then I would just get pissed, and once I got pissed, I would slowly be able to move and get out of bed. I'd be like, "Goddammit I'm going to be late for work~!!!" And during the whole thing - which would last anywhere from 5 to 10 minutes - I could smell the distinctive scent of mens cologne - a kind that wasn't my brothers - or anything he would wear. When I was able to move, the scent would disappear within a minute. The first time it happened, I thought it was just a really bad dream that seemed real and freaky, but it happened each of the 5 times I stayed there. (I was never drinking those nights either.) After the second time, I asked my brother if anyone had complained from sleeping in that room before and he said no and mentioned all the people that have slept in that room...they were all guys. So I'm guessing that this 'guy ghost' or whatever just likes to control sleeping girls. Sick bastard. ( I swear it's true!)

I can't name the source but I have a friend whose parents lived near Lake Calhoun and both his sisters had the same thing happen to them in the basement bedroom...some unseen force pressing them down to the bed, unable to move until it let them up.

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posted 08-27-2001 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zomzom   Click Here to Email zomzom     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
The sensation of being held down, paralyzed, or whatever, is common with "out of body" experiences. I've had this happen to me several times, but quite a few years ago. And don't say I was high when this happened to me, at that point in my life my only drug experience was with alcohol. What usually happened was, I'd be lying down, not asleep, when I would feel paralyzed, yet conscious, but couldn't move or vocalize. Sometimes I felt like I was sliding down, like something was pulling at me, but other times I actually "floated" up and could see things in my room from above, such as myself lying in the bed. Unfortunately, it hasn't happened to me in many years. It usually scared the crap out of me as well, because you are completely powerless. It was exciting and fun in a scary way. I never saw or heard any paranormal activity in the four years I worked at the Ave. I was often there when only the janitor was present, and never felt the least bit spooky. I know that some ashtrays went flying off the tables in the mainroom for no reason, I didn't see it but the people I worked with did. It happened when the club wasn't open, the ashtray would just fly off the table and crash onto the dancefloor. No ectoplasm or anything. What's the story with Scott's drum cases?

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posted 08-27-2001 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RC     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I can't find the First Ave. ghost stories link either.
http://www.tcpunk.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/000022.html


I do remember hanging out in the VIP room with just Joe Lyons bartending, nobody else. I asked Joe what he thought of all the First Ave. ghost stories. Before he said a word...the lights went out in the VIP room and came back on after a couple of seconds. We just looked at each other and smiled, didn't talk about it again.

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posted 08-27-2001 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laggard   Click Here to Email Laggard     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by autopsygrrrl:
I can't find that part! Where is it?

They apparently took the history section down when they did one of their 1000 site redesigns.

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posted 08-27-2001 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for valis   Click Here to Email valis     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by zomzom:
The sensation of being held down, paralyzed, or whatever, is common with "out of body" experiences. I've had this happen to me several times, but quite a few years ago. And don't say I was high when this happened to me, at that point in my life my only drug experience was with alcohol. What usually happened was, I'd be lying down, not asleep, when I would feel paralyzed, yet conscious, but couldn't move or vocalize. Sometimes I felt like I was sliding down, like something was pulling at me, but other times I actually "floated" up and could see things in my room from above, such as myself lying in the bed.

You just described all the symptoms of sleep paralysis! Apparently your body doesn't move while your dreaming, and sometimes your mind will wake up with your body still like this. While paralyzed people can freak out and see shit or think someone else is there (Some people put all those alien and rectal probe encounters as products of tabloids and sleep paralysis). After I read about this I started noticing that it happens a lot to me, I just wrote it off as bad dreams prerviously.

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