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Swillmongrel
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posted 03-26-2002 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swillmongrel   Click Here to Email Swillmongrel     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Unwritten Law
System of a Down
Bad Religion (new stuff)
Metallica
Slayer
Inucbus
Lincoln Park (sp?)
AFI

And this really stinky stuff that mixes the worst of grindcore and emocore.

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blackspatula
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posted 03-26-2002 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blackspatula   Click Here to Email blackspatula     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
and why do we care about this information?

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lutefisk
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posted 03-26-2002 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lutefisk   Click Here to Email lutefisk     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
At least it's not American Head Charge for chrissakes!

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Swillmongrel
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posted 03-26-2002 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swillmongrel   Click Here to Email Swillmongrel     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
If you don't care about the information, then why did you click on the hypertext that said "What the High Schoolers in SoCal are Listening to" ? You genius, you.

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Patti Pagan
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posted 03-26-2002 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Patti Pagan   Click Here to Email Patti Pagan     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lutefisk:
At least it's not American Head Charge for chrissakes!

Hey! Whatever happened to "Support Your Local Band"??

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RC
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posted 03-26-2002 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RC     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
What is "System of a Down"?

How many kids did you ask Swill?

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Swillmongrel
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posted 03-26-2002 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swillmongrel   Click Here to Email Swillmongrel     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
In the 9th grade computer class I teach, I let the kids bring CDs in and I'll play them on my computer for the class. So the list is from stuff the kids have brought in for me to play. Except Slayer, that one a kid asked me if I'd play it and I said "sure, why not". My only rule is that there is no swearing in the lyrics. I of course don't care, but I don't want to lose my job over it if I parent gets wind of it. So anyway, this is all stuff I have been subjected to.

I don't know how to describe System of a Down other than that they seem to be really popular for a band that as far as I know gets no airplay or MTV exposure. The music is heavy-metal, thrash, Rage Against the Machine-type stuff with lyrics and singing that leads me to believe that they take themselves way too seriously. Emo-metal?
www.systemofadown.com

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YerMom
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posted 03-26-2002 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YerMom   Click Here to Email YerMom     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Swillmongrel:
I don't know how to describe System of a Down other than that they seem to be really popular for a band that as far as I know gets no airplay or MTV exposure.

REALLY popular. And although it is true they developed their fanbase on their own, MTV and Active Rock radio stations moved in quickly and have been playing them for a while. Linkin Park are MTV staples. Their interminable album, Hybrid Theory. has sold 7 million copies and been on the billboard charts for 79 weeks. These bands occupy very similar musical territory. This sub-genre, while not as unlistenable as the 'cookie-monster', nu-metal stylings of, say, Drowning Pool or Saliva, represents the worst possible melding of emo and crunch.

The kids would say I just don't get it. It get it, it just sucks.

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posted 03-27-2002 06:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for flyerguyakatalkabout     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RC:
What is "System of a Down"?


I've heard that they're supposed to be "anti-American", so maybe there's some credibilty,who knows?

What I wanna know is, has Swill tried to "corrupt" their young minds with HIS music yet? You could be the first teacher in the U.S. to expose school students to the entirety of the "Funhouse" boxed-set!!

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dadaduck
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posted 03-27-2002 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dadaduck   Click Here to Email dadaduck     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
VH-1 just ran an hourlong documentary on the rise of Orange County "punk", surfer fashion, and extreme sports. It was pretty fucking repulsive. They had a bunch of surfer dudes from one of those awful post-Offspring bands talking about how "Orange County sets the tone for the entire country!" and "Orange County is where everything is happening!" Like, um, lots of Mountain Dew commercials.

BARF.

They did interview a couple of guys from T.S.O.L. and they were pretty funny. One of them was talking about trying to break into Disneyland to decapitate Mickey Mouse. There was also some really scary footage of endless suburbs, and the mayor of Irvine talking about why conformity is a good thing. And a grainy film of Social Distortion as teenagers wearing tons of eyeliner... which looked a lot better than Mike Ness' current California greaser look.

Granted I was never a fan of Social Distortion.

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posted 03-27-2002 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zomzom   Click Here to Email zomzom     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I thought that I read that System..blah blah are all of "middle-eastern" descent.
I did see one of their videos by mistake once, they seemed to be very cheesed off about something, although the imagery and lyrics were confusing/unintelligible. The extremely hairy singer was jumping around and yelling about something.
Maybe we don't get it, Mr. Mom.

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blackspatula
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posted 03-27-2002 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blackspatula   Click Here to Email blackspatula     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Swillmongrel:
If you don't care about the information, then why did you click on the hypertext that said "What the High Schoolers in SoCal are Listening to" ? You genius, you.

Because I'm a unemployed slacker and have nothing better to do with my time.

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Tobylifehater
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posted 03-27-2002 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tobylifehater   Click Here to Email Tobylifehater     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dadaduck:
[B]Granted I was never a fan of Social Distortion, but Mike Ness is really dumber than dirt.

B]



Actually he just comes off that way. He's a really nice guy and at one time was a pretty OK friend of mine- he was really tight with the vocalist from my band back in 83-84ish. All you get to see is what the media wants you to see- little clips here and there of dramatic shit he says or whatever. He's a stand up guy and to my recollection he never turns his back on a friend. Just because he's in the limelight people take potshots at him from afar, but I would actually love to see you stand right up close and tell him that. I know him well enough to know what the result would be. He's got a big heart, that guy- never ever backs down, ever.

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autopsygrrrl
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posted 03-27-2002 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for autopsygrrrl   Click Here to Email autopsygrrrl     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Swillmongrel:
I don't know how to describe System of a Down other than that they seem to be really popular for a band that as far as I know gets no airplay or MTV exposure.

They're ALWAYS on MTV! They are also played a lot on 93X here.

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DEA
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posted 03-27-2002 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DEA   Click Here to Email DEA     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
YOU TELL 'EM, TOBY! I, too, agree that Mr. Ness is a stnd up kind of guy. I met him when I won this silly contest from Sony and Northern Lights on Hennepin. We were given "all access" to the "backstage" for the show at the Ave and the crew were really cool and set up some stacks for us to sit on at the side of the stage. They also did a little "formal" meet and greet afterwards. Mike and Dennis were REALLY nice, answered all kinds of stupid, fanatical kid questions and signed a ton of autographs (and there were only 2 of us). 10/11 years later, I can still picture him stepping next to us between the set and the encore to say "hi" and towel off (YUMMY). If someone is cool enough to take the time to humor a couple of kids who are there on behalf of the FICKIN RECORD LABEL, they can't be too bad. Plus, I heard from one of the former employees that Mike and Dennis actually looked at all of the entries (it was supposed to be a blind ballot) and picked mine...naughty boys, fixin the contest to get a girl (as opposed to a boy) backstage.

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dadaduck
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posted 03-27-2002 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dadaduck   Click Here to Email dadaduck     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tobylifehater:

Actually he just comes off that way...All you get to see is what the media wants you to see- little clips here and there of dramatic shit he says or whatever. He's a stand up guy and to my recollection he never turns his back on a friend.

I stand corrected. The way they edited his clips in the documentary made him sound kinda dumb.

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Swillmongrel
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posted 03-27-2002 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swillmongrel   Click Here to Email Swillmongrel     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by autopsygrrrl:
They're ALWAYS on MTV! They are also played a lot on 93X here.

I stand corrected. I never watch MTV and I never listen to the radio except for talk radio, so I was just guessing about System of a Down.

My only exposure to pop music is from when kids bring it into my class or I hear it in the supermarket or if it is used in a TV ad or on a TV show. I am blissfully ignorant, more than happy to listen to the same Alice Cooper record over and over again every day.


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posted 03-27-2002 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for owen   Click Here to Email owen     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
The song you are refering to is probably "Chop Suey." They're Croation and I have to say that I really like them. Seem to have a good sense of humor and the singer kinda reminds me of Dan Jonestown. Good early-90's sounding punk/metal. Would have been a good fit in MPLS back then.

quote:
Originally posted by zomzom:
I thought that I read that System..blah blah are all of "middle-eastern" descent.
I did see one of their videos by mistake once, they seemed to be very cheesed off about something, although the imagery and lyrics were confusing/unintelligible. The extremely hairy singer was jumping around and yelling about something.
Maybe we don't get it, Mr. Mom.

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posted 03-27-2002 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zomzom   Click Here to Email zomzom     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
No way. Ecchhhh...they blow. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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posted 03-27-2002 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cire   Click Here to Email cire     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by zomzom:
No way. Ecchhhh...they blow. You should be ashamed of yourself.

complete agreement.

I like my music to say "I don't fit in. What's wrong with these idiots?", not "I don't fit in. What's wrong with me?"

Misery rock sucks.

I do appreciate this forum, though. Information is power, and I can't stomach listening to most of the "kids" stuff nowadays. Heck, looking back 5 - 10 years to when I was one of those "kids" listening to that inane grunge crap, how did I stand it?

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Missy Bigbritches
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posted 03-29-2002 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Missy Bigbritches   Click Here to Email Missy Bigbritches     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
SOAD is Armenian.

Signed,

Mother to an 11 year old who has been listening to SOAD since last summer

(help me)

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Missy Bigbritches
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posted 03-29-2002 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Missy Bigbritches   Click Here to Email Missy Bigbritches     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Oh, and proving once again that SoCal teens in the know have nothing on pre-teens in Minnesota.

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posted 03-30-2002 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fry   Click Here to Email Fry     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Well, this isn't completely on-topic, so I'll have to watch out for those TCPolice.

Anyways, my friend went up to Northfield to visit a kid he used to live next door to. The guys friend said there was a "core" show, and it was like Slipknot - crappy death metal who care WAY too much about their image and how cool and "anti-social" they are. (I'm not sure, someone feel free to correct me). Anyways, 1. they are (kind of) tainting the good name of hardcore and 2. teens in MN don't all like good music... especially in small towns.

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posted 03-30-2002 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Clyde   Click Here to Email Clyde     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YerMom:
The kids would say I just don't get it. It get it, it just sucks.

Ahh, if it was DIY you would have been playing it on Morning Breath in a second.

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posted 04-01-2002 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for autopsygrrrl   Click Here to Email autopsygrrrl     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I had MTV on the other day and I noticed a preponderance of bands who wear "scary" masks or facepaint, like Mudvayne, Slipknot and this other band that tries to look just like slipknot but I can't remember their name. VERY disturbing, folks. We must ask ourselves: Are they too ugly to show their faces? Or too pretty to be playing "new metal"?

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posted 04-02-2002 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YerMom   Click Here to Email YerMom     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Clyde:
Ahh, if it was DIY you would have been playing it on Morning Breath in a second.


Gosh, and I thought no one remembered.

However, that assertion is incorrect. While I love themes of alienation (see Numan, Barrett, Pink Floyd, Husker Du, etc.) I can't abide a 'crunch-for-crunch's-sake' approach to music. If you're just angry and don't have any comprehension of melody, or something interesteng, I'm not into it. Hell, even Marylin Manson gets a certain number of style points. This flood of eyebrow ring, funny little beard types is pap. Misery is the new pop. If that makes me old and out of touch, so be it. Happens to everybody.

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posted 05-16-2002 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swillmongrel   Click Here to Email Swillmongrel     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Today on the CD player in the 9th grade computer lab:

Pennywise (I don't mind them so much, kind of generic but I've heard much worse. The kids were talking about an album they had called "Land of the Free", I told them a punk band 20 years ago used that title for a single. They had never heard of Husker Du of course)

Jethro Tull

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SvbV3rS|V3
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posted 05-16-2002 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SvbV3rS|V3   Click Here to Email SvbV3rS|V3     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
SOAD are from NY city, only there drummer? is from croatia or some other slavic nation

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Swillmongrel
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posted 10-01-2002 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swillmongrel   Click Here to Email Swillmongrel     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
This year the little 9th grade surfer kids are really into Led Zep.

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posted 10-01-2002 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MO     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I've got some kids who are getting a bit into old 80's hardcore. I saw one wearing a Minor Threat shirt the other day so I started talking to him. It's his favorite band to listen to, so I told him about how I saw them play and his face turned red and he sat and stared at me like I was the reincarnation of Jesus or something. It was pretty cute. I printed out the old flyer and gave him a copy.

A few kids here are into Tiger Army. Weezer is incredibly popular, too. I usually see at least two to three Weezer shirts a day (and I only have 375 kids in high school).

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posted 10-01-2002 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trailerdiva   Click Here to Email trailerdiva     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
My kid made me listen to a SOAD song the other day that is all about playing the game Zelda; they probably play alot of it on the tour bus...

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posted 10-05-2002 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for labot tim me   Click Here to Email labot tim me     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
there's a guy who works at my school who complimented me on my black flag shirt. he said he liked dead kennedys better though.
i thought that was pretty cool.

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posted 10-07-2002 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Garrret   Click Here to Email Garrret     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I've listened to SOAD on quite a few occasions, my roommates like them, and some of their stuff is okay. They try to do some interesting stuff with their music, but aren't really all that good at it, but at least it's more interesting than a lot of the other crap (creed, lincoln park, mudvayne, slipnot, nickleback, etc...). They are a little preachy though and seem to try to confirm their 'underground' hipness too much.

The story goes: the singer's parents are Armenian but he was born in Beruit, moved to LA when he was 8 and lived among the Armenian population there.

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posted 10-07-2002 03:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for buttmonkey   Click Here to Email buttmonkey     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
"hey look at us, we're still underground!"

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posted 11-23-2002 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SicGirl   Click Here to Email SicGirl     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Linkin Park are great. They played a great show here (SD) a few months ago with Cypress Hill. (Me and my date were the oldest ones there by about a decade - SIGH!!)

POD seem to have gotten huge overnight too.


quote:
Originally posted by Swillmongrel:
[/Lincoln Park (sp?)

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posted 12-01-2002 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for exframed     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
so cal beats the shit out of this shithole! if i didn't have kids here i'd be back there in a new york minuet! the west coast is the best coast!

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