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Topic: T-Rex
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Felix Havoc Punk Posts: 1650 Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 11-10-2001 09:40 PM
I won't even begin to claim T-Rex is punk but I've been pretty into T-Rex lately. Ironically I first "discovered" T-Rex from hearing Bauhaus cover of Telegram Sam on college radio and DJ noting it was a T-Rex song. I've always considered T-Rex to be more a 60's psychedelic/70's glam thing maybe like the first two Alice Cooper Lps but when you think about it the later hard rocking T-Rex follows Alice Cooper's turn from heavy glam to hard rock with the end of the 60's. Listening to T-Rex now it seems almost right on the edge between Cream/Hendrix style psychedelic but heavy rock and Bowie/Sweet sort of glam. I have Beard of Stars, the Slider, Electric Warrior, Peel Sessions and Light of Love (which I think is the US pressing of an LP released under a different name in England?) I guess there are 8 other LPs!? Anyone know if any of the others are good? I of course prefer the rocking stuff to the lilting acoustic stuff. I think I hear quite a bit of Marc Bolan's influence in some 77 punk bands, I swear that the Clash lifted a few licks for their later LPs. Marc Bolan re formed T Rex in 77 and toured the UK with the Damned as his openers. I don't remember Bowie or Alice doing anything that cool. T-Rex was essentially a two piece, Marc Bolan on guitar and Mickey Finn on drums. Bolan died in 78 and Finn in 80. Who was it that covered "Bang a Gong" that still gets played on KQ? Robert Palmer or something. IP: Logged |
Orbit Punk Posts: 541 Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 11-11-2001 01:33 AM
Weird, I was just talking to someone at the bar about T-Rex. I just recently scored a used copy of Tanx (the one after The Slider-anyone wanna check me on that maybe?) I love that stuff. The October issue of Mojo has a review of an anniversary re-release of Electric Warrior; the writer goes on at great length about how that was the high point, and everything went downhill after that (drugs, rock-star hubris, etc.) Feh! The Slider and Tanx are my favorites. Scotty's gal has more T-Rex/Tyrannosaurus Rex/Bolan stuff than anyone I know. BTW, Felix, the aforementioned Mojo article as an anecdote about Bolan rocking out in the wings to The Ramones in '77 and touring w/ The Damned.IP: Logged |
molly coddle Punk Posts: 2555 Registered: May 2001
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posted 11-11-2001 07:30 AM
oh yeah. 20th Century Boy, Jeepster... god I love T.RexIP: Logged |
Felix Havoc Punk Posts: 1650 Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 11-11-2001 09:47 AM
Crucial, I'll try to find Tanx.IP: Logged |
Beving Punk Posts: 1926 Registered: May 2000
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posted 11-11-2001 11:19 AM
Anyone who knows me knows about my recent (within the last 5 years or so) obsession with 70's glam rock. Sure, I always loved the Sweet and Bowie and the few T.Rex songs, but it's gotten way out of hand lately (can you say scouring record stores in Northern England looking for that rare "Rock and Roll Winter" 7" by Wizzard?).There are a few videos of T Rex floating around, one called "Born TO Boogie" that was produced by Ringo Starr, and I have a BBC documentary from the early 90's on Bolan. The 2 videos combined give a pretty good look at the world of Bolan. Also there's a tape originally titled "Raw Energy" when it was made in 78, re-released in the mid 90's under the title "Punk The Early Years" that has the last interview Bolan ever gave. In it he's talking about how great all the new punk bands are and how he thinks its the greatest thing to happen to rock and roll since its inception. IP: Logged |
Orbit Punk Posts: 541 Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 11-11-2001 01:53 PM
Forgot to mention, Bolan was a member of the group John's Children before all the other stuff. I know some of that has been re-issued - any of you Mods out there have any?IP: Logged |
Jzzz Punk Posts: 1788 Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 11-11-2001 02:00 PM
T-Rex was one of my faves when I was little, still listen to them from time to time, so simple and so great, "She used my head like a revolver." I wanted to mention them in the "Favorate Hippy Music" thread but they deserve their own area. I too remember a few video's, totaly chezzy and awesome Don Kirshner style with blue screened psychodelia backdrop. Never knew he toured in late 70's with the Damned, how cool.IP: Logged |
bondageElf Punk Posts: 49 Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 11-11-2001 03:06 PM
I'm glad there are other people willing to admit an affection for pre '77 music. Power Station covered "Bang A Gong" and yes it was fronted by Robert Palmer and then Micheal DesBarres(from Detective). My first nugget of knowledge to contribute is a fuckin' embarrassment, but trivia dork that I am...I couldn't pass it up.
quote: Originally posted by Felix Havoc: I won't even begin to claim T-Rex is punk but I've been pretty into T-Rex lately. Ironically I first "discovered" T-Rex from hearing Bauhaus cover of Telegram Sam on college radio and DJ noting it was a T-Rex song. I've always considered T-Rex to be more a 60's psychedelic/70's glam thing maybe like the first two Alice Cooper Lps but when you think about it the later hard rocking T-Rex follows Alice Cooper's turn from heavy glam to hard rock with the end of the 60's. Listening to T-Rex now it seems almost right on the edge between Cream/Hendrix style psychedelic but heavy rock and Bowie/Sweet sort of glam. I have Beard of Stars, the Slider, Electric Warrior, Peel Sessions and Light of Love (which I think is the US pressing of an LP released under a different name in England?) I guess there are 8 other LPs!? Anyone know if any of the others are good? I of course prefer the rocking stuff to the lilting acoustic stuff. I think I hear quite a bit of Marc Bolan's influence in some 77 punk bands, I swear that the Clash lifted a few licks for their later LPs. Marc Bolan re formed T Rex in 77 and toured the UK with the Damned as his openers. I don't remember Bowie or Alice doing anything that cool. T-Rex was essentially a two piece, Marc Bolan on guitar and Mickey Finn on drums. Bolan died in 78 and Finn in 80. Who was it that covered "Bang a Gong" that still gets played on KQ? Robert Palmer or something.
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MO Punk Posts: 713 Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 11-11-2001 04:19 PM
When I was seven years old and lived in Memphis, I met Marc Bolan ('73). My mother and I were taking my glam-sister (then 16) to the airport the morning after she saw T-Rex play. She told my mother that she thought she saw him so my mother marched up to him, tapped him on the shoulder and said "Marc? My daughters want to meet you" and he came over and talked to us. I was petrified at meeting my first ever rock star and hid behind my mother. He was very soft-spoken and gracious. When he said he had to leave to catch his plane, my mother asked that he give my sister something to remember their meeting so he kissed them both on the cheek. My mother told him it should be more tangible than that, so he opened up his little velvet purse and took out a bottle of perfume and sprayed my sister with it. I think she didn't shower for a week...My mother is so great...for those of you who've met her, you'd note that that wasn't unusual behavior for her... [This message has been edited by MO (edited 11-11-2001).] IP: Logged |
Emma Punk Posts: 559 Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 11-11-2001 11:52 PM
Wow! What a great story MO!IP: Logged |
zomzom Punk Posts: 77342222 Registered: Mar 1920
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posted 11-12-2001 09:10 AM
I was hooked on T Rex since I bought The Slider 8-track when it came out. I've worn out my vinyl of Electric Warrior. What can I say? Bolan was one of the coolest things that glam produced. And Bev, you've gotta admit that he was quite hippie before he discovered makeup. I've got all of the T Rex stuff, including Tanx. The last album I believe was Light of Love, I bought that as soon as it was released, but it's pretty weak, a few good tunes. I've got a triple LP collection from Japan that's just amazing, it's got a book in it, and it even has Marc's Christmas message from BBC Radio. It also has a single that he and Bowie recorded under a pseudonym, which I forget the name of right now. I've got a few collections as well, and 20th Century Boy. If I get a chance, I may scan some of the pics and literature, and I'm currently digitizing some vinyl, so I'll let anyone know when and where, if interested. The Slider is my favorite, and I'm sure that fans are aware that The Phlorescent Leech and Eddie (background vocals) were Volman and Kaylan from The Turtles. A bit of trivia, Marc Bolan was the first to own a Veleno guitar, he got the original prototype in I believe 1973. The Three Johns did and excellent cover of 20th Century Boy, and that miserable Power Station cover of Bang a Gong is yet more proof that someone should have killed Robert Palmer in his fucking banker-style suit years ago. Yeeeucccchhh.IP: Logged |
DipshitLucy Punk Posts: 1540 Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 11-12-2001 12:14 PM
LOVE The Slider. Must look into more.....Thanks for the input!IP: Logged |
zomzom Punk Posts: 77342222 Registered: Mar 1920
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posted 11-12-2001 12:18 PM
I'm reminded of early pics of the Damned, with one of them, I think Rat Scabies, wearing a T Rex T shirt.-found this recent interview with the Cap'n: Is it true that the Damned toured with T Rex at Marc Bolan's request? We did, yes. He saw a picture of me onstage with the band. I was wearing a T Rex/Marc Bolan T-shirt, and I suppose when he was looking for a support band in 1977, we were a good choice. He had seen that the punk thing was happening, and he wanted to kind of keep his career going, I suppose, by nicking some of our audience, maybe. And we wanted to nick some of his audience, because a lot of the girls that followed T Rex were quite pretty. He was so good to us, as well. 1977 was the year he died. It was, yes. A real shame. He took us out on his coach [bus], and he didn't ask us for tour support money, and he used to give us pep talks and tell us the dos and don'ts in recording studios. When we were in service stations, eating egg and chips and terrible fatty foods, Marc would be jogging. He would jog 'round and 'round and you'd see him going past the window, and the rest of his band were inside eating egg and chips, followed up by a few cigarettes. And Marc was on a get-fit, get-healthy kick. [This message has been edited by zomzom (edited 11-12-2001).] IP: Logged |
Beving Punk Posts: 1926 Registered: May 2000
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posted 11-12-2001 12:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by zomzom: And Bev, you've gotta admit that he was quite hippie before he discovered makeup.
Agreed, which is why I don't really dig any of the Tyranosauraus Rex lps. If you want to see me completely contradict myself (which I am VERY wont to do!) check out the thread I'm about to start on Hawkwind. IP: Logged |
Perkeo Punk Posts: 429 Registered: Aug 2001
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posted 11-12-2001 03:28 PM
There's a T-rex spin off band that involved Steve"Perrigrine" Took, called Shagrat, that put out some cool stuff too, or at least recorded demos and acetates that have creeped out over the past couple of years... http://www.forcedexposure.com/artists/steve.peregrine.tooks.shagrat.html ...I've heard it and some of it's super lo-fi but it's pretty damn cool nonetheless...IP: Logged |
YerMom Punk Posts: 664 Registered: May 2001
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posted 11-12-2001 07:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by zomzom: It also has a single that he and Bowie recorded under a pseudonym, which I forget the name of right now.
No SHIT!?! I would love to hear it, as David Bowie is the greatest figure in all of rock. Period. IP: Logged |
zomzom Punk Posts: 77342222 Registered: Mar 1920
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posted 11-12-2001 07:49 PM
Not that this pic has anything to do with it, but I was told by reliable informants that the Dib Cochrane and the Earwigs single was Bowie and Bolan. And here I'll have to publicly agree with Yer Mom about The Thin White Duke. If anyone comes close to it, it's got to be DB.IP: Logged |
Emma Punk Posts: 559 Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 11-13-2001 01:20 AM
quote: Originally posted by zomzom: Marc would be jogging. He would jog 'round and 'round and you'd see him going past the window, and the rest of his band were inside eating egg and chips, followed up by a few cigarettes. And Marc was on a get-fit, get-healthy kick.
And that year he dies. Fuck. Just goes to show ya...IP: Logged |
Jzzz Punk Posts: 1788 Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 11-14-2001 01:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by Felix Havoc and ZomZom: Robert Palmer
I seem to remember hearing that he covered "New Day Rising" in concert, I heard there was even a tape floating around and it was funny as all get up.IP: Logged |
d.ranged Punk Posts: 55 Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 11-14-2001 03:43 AM
MO, I am positively green with jealousy!!! Marc Bolan is to this day one of my all time favourite glam rockers. He died on September 16th of '77. His discography is huge if you dig hard enough! I'm sure there are bigger ones out there, but I haven't seen them. (Then again, I can't claim that digging through discographies is something I do on a regular basis.) Wish I could afford them all, although I too agree about the Tyrannasaurus Rex/T.Rex thing... some of it I don't mind and some of it I like, but I could easily live without most of the early stuff. I joined Netflix for a month just so I could rent the MusikLaden Roxy Music/T.Rex DVD at http://www.netflix.com/MovieDisplay?movieid=17142764&trkid=73 It was fab! IP: Logged |
Orbit Punk Posts: 541 Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 01-22-2002 06:51 PM
Has anyone ever come across a book called "20th Century Boy", by Mark Paytress? I've only checked a few places online (Amazon, etc) and so far haven't had any luck finding it. It's about the only Bolan bio I've heard of.[This message has been edited by Orbit (edited 01-22-2002).] IP: Logged |
tedbob Lil Punk Posts: 1 Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 07-09-2002 10:32 PM
The record that you are looking for is the Hype. It's a 3 song 33 1/3 but the size of a 45 , including song titles: The Prettiest Star Conversation Piece Holy HolyThe copy I have is on the Major Tom label and says NOT FOR SALE. I got it as a gift from a friend and I believe that he found it at Oarfolk. TEDBOB quote: Originally posted by YerMom: No SHIT!?! I would love to hear it, as David Bowie is the greatest figure in all of rock. Period.
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Ollie Stench Admin Posts: 2393 Registered: Jan 2002
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posted 07-09-2002 11:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by tedbob: The record that you are looking for is the Hype. It's a 3 song 33 1/3 but the size of a 45 , including song titles: The Prettiest Star Conversation Piece Holy HolyThe copy I have is on the Major Tom label and says NOT FOR SALE. I got it as a gift from a friend and I believe that he found it at Oarfolk. TEDBOB
That's a bootleg, good luck trying to find a legit copy that isn't on some over-priced box set. IP: Logged |
stepford wife Lil Punk Posts: 23 Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 07-10-2002 08:11 PM
i recently read a 1990 unauthorized bio of bowie that mentioned several times the early rivalry between bowie and bolan. well, from bowie's side anyway-according to this bio bowie was pretty conniving from the beginning and probably saw every other singer as a rival (i still love his stuff, nonetheless). i'd be interested in reading a bio of bolan to see if he was even aware there was a 'rivalry'. i love all the standards, bang a gong and jeepster and all that, but have to admit i like the trippy songs like 'ride a white swan', too!IP: Logged |
Albert Phish Punk Posts: 128 Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 09-04-2002 03:28 AM
t-rex rocks, i remember the big kids smokin doobies to themIP: Logged |
Susan The Bear Punk Posts: 341 Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 09-06-2002 02:18 AM
yeah...i was born to boogie.IP: Logged |
Tom Thumb Punk Posts: 177 Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 09-13-2002 12:52 AM
It's the bongo's It's all in the bongo'sIP: Logged |
Chelsea40ozBondage Punk Posts: 2320 Registered: May 2000
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posted 09-13-2002 03:58 AM
Andre is PISSED about the glam rock CD's absense from the Triple Rock jukebox.IP: Logged |
Ollie Stench Admin Posts: 2393 Registered: Jan 2002
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posted 09-13-2002 10:01 AM
Tell him to yell at Austin about it. Since I don't work there anymore I have no say in the matter. But Austin should get an earful anyway.IP: Logged |
buttmonkey Punk Posts: 747 Registered: Sep 2002
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posted 10-01-2002 03:19 AM
i have some old t-rex lying around, i should crank itIP: Logged |
trailerdiva Punk Posts: 611 Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 10-01-2002 10:27 PM
god i'm just a jeepster for your loveIP: Logged |
Felix Havoc Punk Posts: 1650 Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 10-05-2002 12:10 PM
Electric Warrior is an excellent Make Out record. IP: Logged |
trailerdiva Punk Posts: 611 Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 11-03-2002 08:17 PM
My friend just got back from seeing Bowie in NYC for the umpteenth time. She leads a charmed life I swear and always meets someone on her jaunts. Well, this guy, Rolan, was her roommate at the Gershwin and gave her a new two cd copy ot T-rex that just came out in London two weeks ago. www.tilldawn.net/InterviewReviewStory/rolan.html [This message has been edited by trailerdiva (edited 11-03-2002).] IP: Logged |
vicman Lil Punk Posts: 3 Registered: Nov 2002
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posted 11-14-2002 02:14 PM
I saw T. Rex on their very first American tour, right after "Electric Warrior" was released. It still remains one of the best rock shows I've ever seen (second only to Iggy and The Stooges last tour). Marc playing his black Les paul, Mickey wanging away on the congas, and only a bass guitarist and drummer to make up the rest. It sounded quite pared down compared to the record and I liked it a whole lot better. A few years later, I saw T. Rex opening up for Three Dog Night (Marc seemed pretty pissed about being consigned to the status of "opening band"), but the band had expanded to about ten people on stage, and the effect was entirely too dense and muddy. And Mickey Finn was long gone. I was sad to see him go in this direction, but it was the heyday of arena rock and everyone was into excess. For some it worked, for Marc it didn't. But I still love dragging out all those old records. They sound great. I first learned of T. Rex while I was doing some after-school work for a radio station, and this single came in on a weird little label called Blue Thumb. The song was "Ride A White Swan" by a band called T. Rex. The station was pretty conservative in its playlist and no one was even remotely interested in this record, so I nipped it for my own collection and started searching for other material. My T. Rex collection grew quite large and I still have all of it. It's been gratifying to see the on-again, off-again interest in Bolan's recordings since he was killed in that car crash so many years ago. The CD compliations and reissues can be a bit hard to find, but they're out there if you look hard enough.IP: Logged |
Ciderpunk Punk Posts: 167 Registered: May 2002
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posted 11-14-2002 06:30 PM
what did y'all think of the movie VELVET GOLDMINE?IP: Logged |
the13green Lil Punk Posts: 6 Registered: Nov 2002
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posted 11-20-2002 09:40 AM
Its weird to see how popular T-Rex is becoming in the states. "Get it on" was about the only song that broke onto the charts here in America in the early 70's and that’s about it. Early 70's Britain he was the biggest thing since the Beatles. I think its really cool how he's now beginning to catch on after all these years here in the states. Felix, have you ever heard the first s/t "T-Rex" album? Its been known in the past as the "brown" album. The cover is a pic of a very pale Mickey and Mark. The album itself is about half electric and half acoustic. It came out before electric warrior and sort of was an album that allowed mark to segue from his more traditional hippy psychedelic jams to the hard rockin groove machine that came to be known as simply T-Rex rather than Tyrannosaurus Rex. Electric warrior, Slider, Tanx are a must for all fans but I seriously recommend some of the earlier stuff cause its just as awesome if you can over the fact that its not bass, drums, and electric guitar. "Prophets Seers and Sages the Angels of the Ages" LP is a really amazing album. So is "Unicorn”. A buddy of mine just scored a copy of this Tyrannosaurus Rex lp for me on the east coast a few weeks ago. My boyfriend also just scored me some rad T-Rex 7"s in London this past week. In case some of you arent aware the 20th Century Superstar 4 disk box set just came out. It covers Mark from the very early years with John Children (who are awesome if you haven’t heard. check out the song "Desdemona") all the way till his death. Tons of cool pics and historic info. Cheers to you all for realizing what a great artist marc was. I thought I was the only one in this whole hardcore scene that had any sort of appreciation for him. Ive heard many many people call him the godfather of punk but im sure this is debatable. PS. Who went to go see Tragedy last week? xoxo matt
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zomzom Punk Posts: 77342222 Registered: Mar 1920
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posted 11-20-2002 09:55 AM
T Rex was big in the states in the early seventies, just not on the radio. The US isn't just "discovering" the band now, but maybe the kids are. Like I said, I bought The Slider on 8-track when that was state-of-the-art technology, and several of my friends in small-town Wisconsin owned T Rex albums. Britain's pop music scene is a completely different animal, so the fact that T Rex (not "him", it was a band after all) wasn't a household name here in the states isn't surprising. Have you ever heard of Buck's Fizz? or Showaddydaddy or whatever they're called? They were HUGE in the UK. But again, T Rex was a popular band back in the early seventies, they sold quite a bit of vinyl and any serious rock fan had some in their collection. IP: Logged |
MO Punk Posts: 713 Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 11-20-2002 10:03 AM
snipped: quote: I think its really cool how he's now beginning to catch on after all these years here in the states. Cheers to you all for realizing what a great artist marc was. I thought I was the only one in this whole hardcore scene that had any sort of appreciation for him. [/B]
??? My sister was into him right from the beginning and I heard him through the bedroom walls when I was about 6-7 years old. He was huge at least in Memphis where we lived then in the early 70's, so I can imagine he was even bigger in bigger towns. I don't believe that most of us just "discovered" him. He's always been a part of my record collection, and I think many others on this board would concur. Read and learn before you are so presumptious! (Yes, I'm being bitchy...so there.) IP: Logged |
the13green Lil Punk Posts: 6 Registered: Nov 2002
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posted 11-20-2002 12:23 PM
Whoa. Hold up! Just thought I would give my two cents. I didn’t mean for everyone to take I the wrong way (hahaha). I’m not saying that T-Rex wasn’t big in the states and I wasn’t trying to be presumptuous. Most of what I know about Marc and his career is through reading about it. I wasn’t alive during the time of his hiatus so im left to go by what’s been written. Although T-Rex was big in England ive read in many sources that mark was really frustrated by not being able to break through in the US, and it became an obsession of his I guess up until his death. What I should of said or simply meant by "discovering" his music was in regards to many people (age: early/mid 20's and younger) hearing/discovering marc/t-rex now and realizing that they like it. Learning to appreciate more then just "get it on". Or if anything learning that the person who sings, "get it on" is T-Rex. I cant count the number of times ive played that song for friends, and they’ve heard it yet don’t know the name of the artist who sings it. What really sort of makes me happy is the fact that after they (new listeners) hear more,, many really sort of start to dig the group. Their stuff still seems fresh after all these years. And its cool how I turn more and more people on to his/their music. Sorry if I offended anyone older. I know mark is very much respected by long time music fans. I should have clarified myself more in regards to a younger generation discovering Marcs music. Xox matt
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the13green Lil Punk Posts: 6 Registered: Nov 2002
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posted 11-20-2002 12:30 PM
another reason that led to me thinking that he wasnt very popular here was the lack of used T-Rex viynl you see (or dont see). why dont i ever see electric warrior or the slider lp's in used record bins at Cheapo or anywhere else in the Twin Cities? ive been looking and looking..and have even talked to a few owners of record stores (Let It Be..for example)...they just seems hard to come across for some reason.------------------ one day we turn from children into people. IP: Logged |