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Ciderpunk
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posted 08-18-2002 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ciderpunk   Click Here to Email Ciderpunk     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I just wanted to see what some of you tcpunkers thought about Frank.

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sonicfreak
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posted 08-18-2002 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sonicfreak   Click Here to Email sonicfreak     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I like Frank. Just read a book about the early days of the Mothers of Invention. Frank did some very brilliant music. Yup, I digs me some Zappa now and again.

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stinkbot
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posted 08-18-2002 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stinkbot   Click Here to Email stinkbot     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
i looove the heck out of frank zappa. He was such a cocky ass sometimes and he was so rude to sell out rock types(a reference to we're only in it for the money).
FUNNY FUNNY FUNNY!! my favorite song is "charva"and i also dig the whole bit that he was actually a GREAT musician and composer!

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monty carlos
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posted 08-19-2002 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for monty carlos     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Absolutely brilliant composer, lyricist, etc.

"Bobby Brown Goes Down" can still illicit chortles of laughter when I think about it.

"I can take about an hour on the tower of power/as long as I gets a little golden shower."

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zomzom
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posted 08-19-2002 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zomzom   Click Here to Email zomzom     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
While I respect some of what the guy has done, I don't care much for the poo-poo and pee-pee sort of lyrics, the noodly long guitar solos, and calculated "weirdness".
I like some of the very early stuff, and I think "concept" albums like Cruisin' with Ruben and the Jets were pretty brilliant.
Can't stand listening to most of that stuff though.

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monty carlos
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posted 08-19-2002 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for monty carlos     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
That's true!! The '80s era stuff just has to go with the keyboard/synclavier (sic) solos.

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Ollie Stench
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posted 08-19-2002 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ollie Stench   Click Here to Email Ollie Stench     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I have a theory that anyone who is really into music and not just genres will go thru a Zappa phase. It may last a week, it may last a lifetime. I was into Zappa in 9th and 10th grades. Titties and Beer being my fave (from Live In NYC).

Anything after and including Ship Arriving Too Late To Save A Drowning Witch is utter crap.

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wrongAnswer
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posted 08-19-2002 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wrongAnswer   Click Here to Email wrongAnswer     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
When I was about seven years old, Frank Zappa scared the living shit out of me. He was on Saturday Night Live, singing " I am the slime from your video...." and he freaked me out so badly I had to run in the other room and hide until I was positive he was gone. My unnatural fear of Zappa lasted about a week, after which I had talked myself down and decided he was funny. ( Who... could imagine... that they would freak out.... in Coloma
Wisconsin....)
I love Zappa. I seem to be one of the few women who does. Yeah, he made some utter crapola, but he also did some amazing, revolutionary stuff.
" Bobby Brown " cracks me up too. (with a spindle up my butt 'til it makes me scream...)

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Ciderpunk
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posted 08-19-2002 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ciderpunk   Click Here to Email Ciderpunk     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
It's cool to hear that I'm not the only Zappa fan amongst the TCPUNK crowd. If I'm in a certain frame of mind I'll listen to Frank a lot, but mostly take him in small doses. I admire(d) his mind more than his music.

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Ollie Stench
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posted 08-20-2002 01:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ollie Stench   Click Here to Email Ollie Stench     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Rubber Shirt is still a really cool instrumental, too.

And maybe we should remind all the mopey fucks on the "Singles Going Steady" thread that Broken Hearts Are For Assholes!!!!

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Ciderpunk
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posted 08-20-2002 06:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ciderpunk   Click Here to Email Ciderpunk     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Broken Hearts...ranks right up there with Dumb All Over and another common fave TITTIES AND BEER!!!!!!!

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Ghoulian
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posted 08-20-2002 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ghoulian   Click Here to Email Ghoulian     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I also like the early Mothers of Invention, especially Freak Out, the 1st album. And "Why Doncha Do Me Right?" is a really cool song. For years it was available only on a rare Mothers single but now it's included with the Absolutely Free CD.

Frank's attitude towards his audience (i.e. "You musical ignoramuses can't possibly appreciate the genius of what I'm doing") became really tiresome after a while.

Trivia note: Frank wrote and arranged "Boy Wonder, I Love You," Burt (Robin) Ward's cash-in single during the Batman craze in 1966.

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sonicfreak
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posted 08-21-2002 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sonicfreak   Click Here to Email sonicfreak     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Famous Fans Pick Zappa Faves


The late Frank Zappa is revered as an absurdist genius that continually pushed the limits of conventional music, but wading into his vast body of work can be daunting for new listeners. With that in mind, Rykodisc has initiated a new compilation series, "Zappa Picks," where celebrity fans of the artist's work handpick favorite tracks from his catalog.

The first two single-disc sets in the series were compiled by Phish drummer Jon Fishman and Primus guitarist Larry LaLonde, and are due Oct. 15 from the label. Each takes a different approach to Zappa's output and the 16- and 19-song collections share just two tracks -- "Dog Breath," from 1972's "Just Another Band From L.A.," and "Sofa No. 2" from 1975's "One Size Fits All."

"It is safe to say that the work of Frank Zappa, his music primarily, but also his humor, politics, social commentary... all of it... has not just been a fundamental influence on me, but is actually more like part of my metabolism," Fishman said in a statement.

"I find this music so wonderful that no matter what I'm listening to, or just finding out about, Frank's music is always on my personal play list, and I never get tired of it. How could you?" added LaLonde.

Here is the "Zappa Picks -- By Jon Fishman of Phish" track listing:

"Excentrifugal Forz," from "Apostrophe" (1974)
"Apostrophe," from "Apostrophe"
"Magdalena," from "Just Another Band From L.A." (1972)
"Dog Breath," from "Just Another Band From L.A."
"Cheepnis," from "Roxy & Elsewhere" (1974)
"Son of Orange County," from "Roxy & Elsewhere"
"More Trouble Every Day," from "Roxy & Elsewhere"
"It Can't Happen Here," from "Freak Out!" (1966)
"Keep it Greasey," from "Joe's Garage" (1979)
"For Calvin (And His Next Two Hitch-Hikers)," from "The Grand Wazoo" (1973)
"What Ever Happened to All the Fun In the World," from "Sheik Yerbouti" (1979)
"Rat Tomago," from "Sheik Yerbouti"
"Wait a Minute," from" Sheik Yerbouti"
"It Just Might Be a One-Shot Deal," from "Waka/Jawaka" (1972)
"I'm the Slime," from "Over-Nite Sensation" (1973)
"Sofa No. 2," from "One Size Fits All" (1975)

Here is the "Zappa Picks -- By Larry LaLonde of Primus" track listing:

"five-five-FIVE," from "Shut Up 'n Play Yer Guitar" (1981)
"Dumb All Over," from "You Are What You Is" (1981)
"Alien Orifice," from "Make a Jazz Noise Here" (1991)
"Camarillo Brillo," from "Over-Nite Sensation" (1973)
"Evelyn, a Modified Dog," from "One Size Fits All" (1975)
"Wild Love," from "Sheik Yerbouti" (1979)
"G-Spot Tornado," from "Jazz From Hell" (1986)
"Dog Breath," from "Just Another Band From L.A." (1972)
"Little Umbrellas," from "Hot Rats" (1969)
"Fine Girl," from "Tinsel Town Rebellion" (1981)
"Sofa No. 2," from "One Size Fits All"
"Village of the Sun," from "Roxy & Elsewhere" (1974)
"Echidna's Arf (Of You)," from "Roxy & Elsewhere"
"Wind Up Workin' in a Gas Station," from "Zoot Allures" (1976)
"St. Alfonzo's Pancake Breakfast," from "Apostrophe" (1974)
"Black Page #2," from "Zappa in New York" (1978)
"Fembot in a Wet T-Shirt," from "Joe's Garage" (1979)
"On the Bus," from "Joe's Garage"
"Doreen," from "You Are What You Is"

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Ciderpunk
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posted 08-22-2002 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ciderpunk   Click Here to Email Ciderpunk     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Frank Zappa rules, OK? Like I tell all my friends, YOU CAN NEVER GET ENOUGH FRANK....Well, maybe you can , but I still like to say that, especially to people who don't listen to him.

[This message has been edited by Ciderpunk (edited 12-15-2002).]

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buttmonkey
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posted 10-01-2002 03:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for buttmonkey   Click Here to Email buttmonkey     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
he's cool

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The Big O
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posted 10-15-2002 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Big O   Click Here to Email The Big O     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
When Frank was little his father would bring home some mercury for Frank to play with (Frank's dad worked in a factory that made thermometers I guess). When you drop it on the carpet its gone. Frank said his carpet in his bedroom was bright silver with the shit!

STRANGE!

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Haystack
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posted 10-15-2002 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haystack   Click Here to Email Haystack     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
i respect it. i can't listen to it.

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Ciderpunk
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posted 12-10-2002 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ciderpunk   Click Here to Email Ciderpunk     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I've been on a Frank kick lately. Been to Zappa.com every day for the last week. anyone else?

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owen
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posted 12-10-2002 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for owen   Click Here to Email owen     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ollie Stench:
I have a theory that anyone who is really into music and not just genres will go thru a Zappa phase.

I guess I am not into music. Most of what I have heard seems over complicated and calculated. Math rock just ain't my thing.

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Mugtoe
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posted 12-11-2002 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mugtoe   Click Here to Email Mugtoe     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
The only time I saw Zappa was in 82 in Austin, TX. It was also the one of the first times I ever did mushrooms, so I have little to report. I've gotta buddy who used to play with some of those guys, however, and there are some mp3's at the Ranch of them goofin around in 1976.
http://spreadeagleranch.com/mp3.htm

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