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molly coddle
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posted 10-11-2002 03:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for molly coddle   Click Here to Email molly coddle     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
so right now I am reading "England's Dreaming" by Jon Savage and I am at the begining with the early Sex Pistols and New York Dolls stuff.
anyway, in 1974, McLaren, Vivian Westwood and Bernard Rhodes printed t-shirts that headed with the line
"You're gonna wake up one morning and KNOW what side of the bed you've been lying on"
followed by the following lists


(Hates):Television (not the group)/George Melly Kenny & Cash/Michael Caine/Charles Forte/Sat nights in Oxford Street/SECURICOR impotence or complacency (slogan & Robert Carr)/Parking tickts/19, Honey, Harpers, Vogue in fact all magazines that treat their readers as idiots/Bryan Ferry/Salvador Dali/A Touch of Class/BRUT for - who cares?/The Presidents Nen/Lord Carrington/The Playboy Club/Alan Brien, Anthony Handen-Guest, vic Lownes, to be avoided first thing in the morning/ANTIQUARIUS and all it stands for/Michael Roberts/POP STARS who are thick and useless/YES/Leo Sayer/David Essex/Top of the Pops/Rod Stewart oh for money and an audience/Elton John - quote in NME 25 Sept re birthday spending/West End shopping/Stirling Cooper, Jean Junction, BROWNS, Take Six, C&A,/Mars bars/Good Fun Entertainment when it's really not good or not funnyBernard Delfont/a passive audience/arse lickers/John Osborne Harry Pinter Max Bygraves Melvyn Bragg Phillip Jenkinson the ICA and its symposiums John Schelsinger Andre Previn David Frost Peter Bogdanovich/Capital Radio/The Village Trousershop (sorry bookshop)/The narrow monopoly of media causing harmless creativity to appear subversive/THE ARTS COUNCIL/Head of the Metropolitan Police/Synthetic foods/Tate &Lyle/Corrupt councillors/G.K.N./Grey skies/Dirty books that aren't all that dirty/Andy Warhol/Nigel Waymouth David Hockney & Victorianism/The Stock Exchange/Ossie Clark/The Rag Trade/E.L.P./Antiques of any sort/Housing Trusts who profit by bad housing/Bianca Jagger/Fellini/John Dunbar/J. Artur's/Tramps/Dingwalls without H/Busby Berkeley MOVIES/Sir Keith Joseph and his sensational speeches/National Front/W.H. Smith/Censorship/Chris Welsh and his lost Melody Makers/Clockwork soul routines/Bob Harris (or the Sniffling Whistler as we know him)/The job you hate but are too scared to pack in/Interview magazine - Peter Lester/rich boys dressed as poor boys/Chelita Secunda, Nicky Weymouth, June Bolan, Pauline Fordham halitosis/Pose & Anne Lambton Chinless people/Antonia Frazer/Derek Marlow/Anne Scott-James/Sydney Edwards/Christopher Logue/Osbert Lancaster/Shaw Taylor - whispering grass/The Archers/BIBAS/Old clothes old ideas and all this resting in the country business/The suburbs/The Divine Light Mission/All those fucking saints.


(Loves):Eddie Cochran/Christine Keeler/Susan 602 2509/My monster in black lights/Raw Power/Society For Cutting Up Men/RUBBER Robin Hood Ronnie Biggs BRAZIL/Jamaican Rude Boys/Bamboo Records/Coffee bars that sell whisky under the counter/THE SCENE - Ham Yard/Point Blank/Monica the girl who stole those paintings/Legal Aid - when you can get it/Pat Arrowsmith/Valerie Solanis/The Price Sisters/Melvin Jones article The Challenge To Capitalism in New Statesman 4th Oct. 74/Buenoventura Durutti The Black Hand Gang/Archie Shepp Muhammed Ali Bob Marley Jimi Hendrix Sam Cooke/Kutie Jones and his SEX PISTOLS/This country is run by a group of fascists so said Gene Vincent in a 1955 US radio interview/Seven Days with Alexander cockburn/Olympia Press/Strange Death of Liberal England - Dangerfield/Mrs Scully love goddess from Shephards Bush her house slaves and Search magazine/Labour Exchanges as our local/FREE RADIO stations/A chance to do it for more than a month without being ripped off/The Anarchist Spray Ballet/Lenny Bruce/Joe Orton/Ed Albee/Pauslovsky/Iggy Pop/John Coltrane/Spunky James Brown/Dewey Redman/KING TUBBY'S sound system/Zoot suits and dreadlocks/Kilburn & the High Roads/Four Aces Dalstron/Limbo 90 - Wolfe/Tiger Tiger - Bester/Bizarre Humphries/Woolf - Waves/Walt Whitman poet/Exupery, Simone de Beauvoir, Dashiell Hammett, Dave Cooper, Nick Kent, Carl Gayle writers/Mel Ramos painter/David Holmes the newsman/Mal Dean cartoonist/Guy Stevens records/Mal Huff funny stories/D.H./Valve amps/Art Prince/Marianne Faithfull/Jim Morrison/Alex Trocchi _ Young Adam/Patrick Heron v. The Tate Gallery and all those American businesslike painters/Lady Sinthia 908 5569/Experiment with Time - Dunne/John Lacey and his boiled book v. St Martins's Art School experiment to be seen in New York. Imagination...


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Ollie Stench
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posted 10-11-2002 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ollie Stench   Click Here to Email Ollie Stench     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
QT Jones and his Sex Pistols!!!

Any of the ORIGINAL McLaren/Westwood t-shirts are worth a small fortune these days. If you can find them a SEX or Seditionaries tshirt will have a minimum price tag of $200. There are alot of reproductions out there, off the top of my head you can try

towerblock.co.uk

As far as England's Dreaming goes, its a pretty good read, although Savage tends to overanylize everthing. Much like Dick Hebdige in "SUBCULTURE: The Meaning Of Style", Savage puts a little too much emphasis on punk being this grand, well-planned-out cohesive MOVEMENT, when in fact it was just a bunch of bored kids trying to find a way to kill time.

(OK, that's an oversimplification of the roots of Brit punk, but it makes my point)

My other complaint about Englands Dreaming is that Savage glosses over alot of the 2nd and 3rd string bands with only a casual mention. Even The Damned don't get more than a few pages, while Gen X, Sham 69, The Vibrators et al get slightly more than their names mentioned.

On the plus side England's Dreaming is by far the most extensive book I've read on the culture and circumstances that brought about the manifestation of the punk ethos. Well worth the time it takes to read.

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molly coddle
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posted 10-11-2002 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for molly coddle   Click Here to Email molly coddle     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
you know, I reprinted that whole thing just for the phrase under (hate):
"the narrow monopoly of the media causing harmless creativity to appear subversive"
but my Mother never allowed me to abridge anything.

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Ollie Stench
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posted 10-12-2002 01:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ollie Stench   Click Here to Email Ollie Stench     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I hope you didn't sit there and type the whole thing in!

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molly coddle
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posted 10-12-2002 02:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for molly coddle   Click Here to Email molly coddle     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
let's just say that at that time, I had a lot of time to kill.

actually, there were a lot on the (hate): list that brought back to me just how I felt when I was 18/19 years old and just moving from the South and was unhappy with popular culture as I knew it and just starting to realize that punk existed.
I also identified with the (love): list, but not as passionately.

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stinkbot
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posted 10-13-2002 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stinkbot   Click Here to Email stinkbot     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
i've got that shirt.

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joeschmoe
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posted 10-13-2002 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for joeschmoe   Click Here to Email joeschmoe     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I read that list a long time ago and my memory fails me, because I could've sworn that Pink Floyd was on the hate list.

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Ollie Stench
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posted 10-14-2002 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ollie Stench   Click Here to Email Ollie Stench     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
just found this site
http://www.theswindler.co.uk/

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