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zerg
Lil Punk

Posts: 2
Registered: Dec 2002

posted 12-09-2002 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zerg     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I would like to know somthing. How come some "punks" actualy go out of their way to look "Punk" and what not. I thought that punk is a state of mind, not a fasion. Punk was against fashion and conformity yet all these people look the same to some extent. Almost all of these "punks" have piercings and mohawks or some hairdoo that screams for attention. Wasn't the whole idea of punk music and life style about not caring and just kicking the shit out of one another and having fun. It preached Rebellion and anger twords authority figures and yet a lot of punks still buy shit from stores and spend time in the bathroom doing their hair and dawning their spikes and chains. Buying shit is bending over for society and spending all this time in the bathroom for your looks is simply conforming to the way society thinks punk rockers should look. Oh well, it would be nice to hear some views..
peace out

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-Zerg

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naked maygun
Punk

Posts: 441
Registered: Aug 2002

posted 12-09-2002 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for naked maygun     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
what do you look like? where do you shop? how do these beliefs feed into your everyday actions? if you dont believe in buying stuff, do you make your own clothes? do you grow your own food? it is easy to make comments and observations-but a lot harder to stick to your convictions.

I agree with a lot of what you are saying. I think punk has become, in a lot of ways, nothing more than a fashion. it has indeed become mainstream. however, i think that it's important to realize that if there are parts of punk that you relate with on one level or another-who cares if there are other people that dont understand? let them do their own thing-again, punk being a "cool" thing to do will die down as all fads do. people that have roots in their beliefs and convictions will stick around.

and who's to say punk wasnt a gimmic from the getgo?

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Finn McCool
Punk

Posts: 519
Registered: Jul 2002

posted 12-09-2002 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Finn McCool   Click Here to Email Finn McCool     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Do you ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

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molly coddle
Punk

Posts: 2555
Registered: May 2001

posted 12-09-2002 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for molly coddle   Click Here to Email molly coddle     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
zerg.
I have no view to add, you pretty much said it for me. and quite nicely, I might add.

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The Artful Dodger
Punk

Posts: 893
Registered: May 2002

posted 12-09-2002 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Artful Dodger   Click Here to Email The Artful Dodger     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
At this juncture, I would like to award molly coddle the TCP Best Listing under the Interests Section trophy for her classic "nothing that would make you want to know me better " comment.
I think it's an inspiration to us all.

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2fisted
Punk

Posts: 1818
Registered: Mar 2000

posted 12-09-2002 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2fisted   Click Here to Email 2fisted     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
True but, why not? The great thing is that punk fashion totally contradicts it's self. It's all about mockery anyway. Why not have some fun w/ it? If a person thinks there punk just because they have a T-shirt w/ cid written in blood on it. It's a joke or a dead give away!

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owen
Punk

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Registered: Mar 2000

posted 12-09-2002 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for owen   Click Here to Email owen     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Felix and Daego kinda turned me around on this whole topic, mostly when Felix said he liked (and I paraphrase) "kickin' the mohawk and bondage pants cuz [he thought] it looked cool." What can you say to that? There's nothing wrong with wearing something because you think it looks cool. I'd argue that you should wear clothes because you think they look cool. Why wear average garb? Why not step out? I dress how I do (albeit more understated) for those exact reasons.
I also like the thought that rockin' a tall, red mohawk (ala daego) is like a giant "fuck you" to everyone. Agree with my hypothesis if you want, but there is a lot of truth in here.

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molly coddle
Punk

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Registered: May 2001

posted 12-10-2002 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for molly coddle   Click Here to Email molly coddle     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zerg:
I would like to know somthing. How come some "punks" actualy go out of their way to look "Punk" and what not.


I thought about this for a while last night.
I have to say that those who I know on the board who do have the "punk" look don't go out of their way. It is very much a part of their life style.
For me it would be going out of my way.
I'm not very cool.

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zerg
Lil Punk

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Registered: Dec 2002

posted 12-10-2002 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zerg     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
the whole topic is one of those retarded ones that just makes people fight but I just wanted to hear the views of other people in the scene. Thanks for the comments and no, I do not make my own clothes but I then again I don't realy care I'f I look punk or not. I think its just a mentality...I'm basicaly with all of you. You all have points that I believe in. FUCK MAINSTREAM FUCK POP PUNK AND MOST OF ALL FUCK YOU!

peace out freaks

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zomzom
Punk

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Registered: Mar 1920

posted 12-10-2002 08:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zomzom   Click Here to Email zomzom     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Yes, I see from your many, many photos that you guys like to Give us the Finger!.
Those big giant pants, man, those aren't punk at all. Neither is the blue hippy hairdo on that same guy.
Punk has always been about fashion, but it's not about big giant pants.
Fuck you and "peace out"? Huh?

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Patti Pagan
Punk

Posts: 1433
Registered: Jul 2000

posted 12-10-2002 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Patti Pagan   Click Here to Email Patti Pagan     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Finn McCool:
Do you ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

This is actually happening.

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zomzom
Punk

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Registered: Mar 1920

posted 12-10-2002 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zomzom   Click Here to Email zomzom     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Finn McCool:
Do you ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

An excellent quote by Mr. Rotten.
And yes owen, I know you don't like John, but he nailed it.
It was as true then as it is now.

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Ollie Stench
Admin

Posts: 2393
Registered: Jan 2002

posted 12-10-2002 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ollie Stench   Click Here to Email Ollie Stench     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Punk has been as much about "the look" as it has been about hte music. Sometimes more, sometimes less.

I used to sport the togs but as I got older it seemed less important to let the world know that I hated it. Now it's kinda fun just to blend in and fuck with people's heads when they're not expecting it.

And while I didn't sew my own clothes I did try to do all the modifications myself. Making my own bondage pants, screening or spray painting my own tshirts etc.

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quagmire
Punk

Posts: 279
Registered: Sep 2002

posted 12-10-2002 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for quagmire   Click Here to Email quagmire     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
It was a sad day when I realized I didn't even have ONE safety pin on my clothing

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Dedly Daego
Punk

Posts: 501
Registered: Dec 2000

posted 12-15-2002 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dedly Daego   Click Here to Email Dedly Daego     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
All the junk I used to wear was pretty functional until everything fell apart and I just wore what was left. Now it's usually just a pair of black jeans, the steel caps, and a black t shirt. Simple. I even wear a big fur collared mobster jacket to shows now cause no one gets it. They are always like "What's up with the coat?" Well, nothing. It's super warm and I can hide a lot of weapons or bottles in it if need be.

Big hair. Even the "PUNKS" hate that! It's GREAT! Making all the same dumb asses that pay to see you angry by having big ridiculous hair is funny. Half of them beg for tips. I get e-mails constantly asking me how we got our hair like that. I talk a bunch of mystic mumbo jumbo and will never tell, cause by the time you get it perfect you are sick of it.

"I say never be perfect. Fuck being complete."

What's mostly pathetic is people who really gie a fuck that you choose to adorn yourself in such a manner. If some kid thinks Wattie is cool why shouldn't they? It's their life. Fuck you!

Hows come you never make fun of all the white belts of boys with eating disorders or the uniformity of camo shit at X shows, etc?

It's a matter of how you choose to spend your time. Some spend it doing their hair, others spend it complaining about other people's hairdos. Who's the fool?

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greasy*spoon
Punk

Posts: 77
Registered: Sep 2002

posted 12-15-2002 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for greasy*spoon   Click Here to Email greasy*spoon     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I think it can be more of a tribal-ish instinct. People can seek out like people in a group by a way of dress. At least at one point in time things were like this. These days with Hot Topic and whatnot, WHO KNOWS? Nothings different or shocking anymore.

Mojo, is that you? Everytime a new person pops on with goofy questions I get suspicious.

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Cutekitty
Lil Punk

Posts: 1
Registered: Dec 2002

posted 12-18-2002 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cutekitty     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Who cares what someone else wears, if we all dressed a like this world would be soooo boring.if someone wants to wear spiked collars and holey shirts, cool. i don't give a shit.

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