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Scotty
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posted 03-21-2002 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scotty   Click Here to Email Scotty     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I'm aware of the money involved, and I know how things realistically work "down here". No slam intended whatsoever.

Just using you guys as a good example of an underground band (that Felix works with and likes) that wouldn't be hurt by a big-time sound. No one with half a brain would accuse you of selling out or going for the "bigs"..

I'm NOT saying that it would be worth sucking the corporate teat to GET the $ for that big-time sound..

[This message has been edited by Scotty (edited 03-21-2002).]

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Felix Havoc
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posted 03-21-2002 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Felix Havoc   Click Here to Email Felix Havoc     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I was not invovled in the recording of any Misery material. I just re released all the old stuff on CD that was out of print. I was involved in the recording of the DS 13 LP and Holding On LP and Nine Shocks Terror LP and those all sound fucking boss. I didn't say there weren't meiocre bands on indy labels or good/adventurous/different bands on majors, but those are generally exceptions. I listen to a lot of major label music, albeit 90% of it is pre 1977. But when you look at the musical landscape today there is very little outside the underground that is even remotely different or aggressive. And, much of the bigger underground acts are just second string benchwarmers angling for the big break to MTV and the majors. I'm just glad that the means of production are still available to people like me to do music on our own terms as an art form, hobby or whatever you want to call it rather than commercially. I don't expect many people to agree with me, I'm pretty extreme in my views about this sort of thing. But to me the medium is the main factor, otherwise the label is just a matter of time and semantics.

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flyerguyakatalkabout
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posted 03-22-2002 04:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for flyerguyakatalkabout     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RC:

[B]Flyer, I think you want to know more about the actual dollar amount for Helmet and the Atlantic deal and not the mechanics of how the label worked. I don't know the dollar amount and it's none of my business.

-It's not so much the dollar amount per se. Am I curious and nosey enough to wanna know?
Yes. Is the AMOUNT important to the story of how the label evolved? Not really. What I'm really trying to find out is if my assumptions regarding what the deal, or if Helmet was the chief catalyst, brought to the label to make it what it became. My understanding, and you or anyone else who cares to can either correct me and/or fill in the blanks are as follows: That Hazelmeyer didn't really set out to start AmRep as a label per se, that it was basically a vehicle to put out his own band's stuff, and people thought it was a record label, and sent him stuff hoping he'd put in out, which is what I seem to remember reading in an interview with him years ago.I already touched on the decimal point thing, but I assume that or the Atlantic deal itself lead to AmRep getting their own offices outside of Twin/Tone, and their own studio too? Then, I guess I've assumed that the money hopefully made by the people/label was the catalyst for what created Grumpy's. Basically, what I guess I'm looking for is what was created, directly or indirectly, from what they got out of being associated with a major, sort of a cause and effect thing. Does that clarify it?

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flyerguyakatalkabout
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posted 03-23-2002 06:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for flyerguyakatalkabout     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ollie Stench:
[B]

The only problem I have with band members running a label is they can't devote 100% of their energy into selling reocrds. That's the problem the Subversives have been having for the last 4 years. We were signed to GMM Records, a label owned and run by Mark Noah of the Anti-Heros. He is also a pilot for UPS. Whenever we'd try to get in touch with him he was always either on the road with the band or in the air with work. After 2 years and many unfulfilled promises we got an offer from Charged Records, owned by Jake of the Casualties. Jake actually pursued us and made all these promises. He put us in a studio right away, but then the Casualties had to tour so he was gone for 2 months. H got back, did some more Casualties business, didn't return any of our phone calls or emails, wen't back out on the road with the Warped Tour, and then toured for another month on their own. Our record was supposed to be out in January, now it's looking like May, over a year after it was recorded.

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Didn't Resistance Records try to woo you guys, and then changed their minds when they found out that you weren't "German" enough for them?

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PISSHEAD
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posted 03-23-2002 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PISSHEAD   Click Here to Email PISSHEAD     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Keeping it local is the best thing to do.Eldeberry records from sweden released our split with EOM a year and a half after they said they would.I know a lot of labels have trouble with the money thing, but when we got the ok to release it in the us Reynolds and Nick.Had both the cd and lp out in a couple of months.Even though it sometimes takes quite a while for some of these labels to release shit, I think it is far more important to use these labels than let some fuckhead producer mold your music into a product that they think will sell.Look what they did to bands like Nirvana, they cleaned their music up so much they had your fucking grandma tapin her foot to it.And we all know that if the lady heard the music that is real , she'd be fucking stompin her foot to it.You know how much control the music industry has over the general population,payola, when you turn on your radio, you hear the music that they want you to hear.the same six fucking songs over and over til the sales are high enough to move on.Not including riot radio.

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PoppaLarge
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posted 03-27-2002 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PoppaLarge     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Wow.

I don't mean to disrupt the more reasonable flow of this message board, but wow. I go away and don't read this for over a week, and see what happens...

If anyone wants to get inspired over a few posts on a message board and kick my ass, I'm amazed, but I guess that will work itself out next time I'm in town. But in all other things, I defer to Billy, since he's a reasonable guy even if he can't capitalize.

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billy
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posted 03-28-2002 04:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for billy   Click Here to Email billy     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
i capitalize on your size poppa!

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cHaOsPuNKgIRL
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posted 03-28-2002 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cHaOsPuNKgIRL   Click Here to Email cHaOsPuNKgIRL     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
So....The Muffs have been a favorite band of mine since I was a teeny-bopper.
Does anyone know what the info is on Kim Shattucks record label Sympathy for the Record Industry, does anyone know the details with the local band The Short Fuses and how they're doing on her label?
I'm really curious to find out how she runs her label. Especially since The Muffs signed to Warner Brothers?!? Does anyone here know the details on this transition and if Sympathy has anything to do with Warner Brothers?

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flyerguyakatalkabout
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posted 03-29-2002 02:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for flyerguyakatalkabout     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by cHaOsPuNKgIRL:

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Does anyone know what the info is on Kim Shattucks record label Sympathy for the Record Industry, ?
Does anyone here know if Sympathy has anything to do with Warner Brothers?


-I don't think the Muffs have been on Reprise (Warner's) for a few years now. I do believe that's a done deal. I don't think Sympathy has ANYTHING to do with Warner's either. The White Stripes are on Sympathy, and they're doing pretty well. It said in an article on them that Sympathy is run by one man, and he's put out a single or album every week for the past 14 years or so, apparently totaling some 500 releases.

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The Ambassador
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posted 03-29-2002 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Ambassador     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by cHaOsPuNKgIRL:
So....The Muffs have been a favorite band of mine since I was a teeny-bopper.
Does anyone know what the info is on Kim Shattucks record label Sympathy for the Record Industry, does anyone know the details with the local band The Short Fuses and how they're doing on her label?
I'm really curious to find out how she runs her label. Especially since The Muffs signed to Warner Brothers?!? Does anyone here know the details on this transition and if Sympathy has anything to do with Warner Brothers?

Sympathy is run by a guy named Long Gone John and they have indeed put out an insane amount of records. It is distributed by Mordam Records and does not have anything to do with Warner Brothers.

I'm not a huge expert on The Muffs, but I do know they were on a major. I believe they were subsequently dropped after one record and then put out a record on Honest Don's, which is a sub-label of Fat Wreck Chords and then the last one, Hamburger, was on Sympathy. I believe that was a compilation of singles and older stuff.

Ok, wait, I just went and looked for a Muffs website and here it is... http://www.rotodesign.com/muffs/ . It looks like there is a ton of info there, so I'll shut up now.

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