posted 06-22-2002 11:41 AM            

If it wasn't in Wisconsin, I could almost consider living there. It's like living in a Chicago suburb without the Chicago expense.

posted 06-24-2002 07:56 PM            

With all that said, man is Milwaukee a bootyfull place. Must...move...there.

posted 06-25-2002 12:13 PM            

here's one:
http://detnews.com/specialreports/2002/segregation/b03-390169.htm

"Geography and history: Most of the nation's most segregated regions are clustered in the industrial Northeast and Midwest. The nation's six most segregated metro areas in a Detroit News analysis of 2000 census data all sit on the Great Lakes: Detroit; Gary, Ind.; Milwaukee; Chicago; Cleveland; and Buffalo. "

at least we beat out detroit and gary, two of the worst places i've ever been to in my life.

posted 06-25-2002 02:42 PM            

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Originally posted by owen:
Well, as a member of the press, I can vouch for the fact that we NEVER (cough) get anything wrong.
Smart ass comments aside, 3 things:
1) In my opinion, the whole country is segregated and racist.
2) There is nothing worse than a bunch of self-congragualtory-honky-ass liberals talking about racism.
3) If you're going to make a statement like that, it stands on it's own better if you can back it up.

With all that said, man is Milwaukee a bootyfull place. Must...move...there.

[This message has been edited by owen (edited 06-24-2002).]

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In addition to being a journalist, you must also be a generalist given the number of generalizations you make. Do....move...there!

posted 06-26-2002 11:00 AM            

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Originally posted by owen:
I guess my main point was that the Milwaukee I saw did not deserve the bad rap it gets nationally.

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yeah, we never got sick of those jokes about jeffrey dahmer, or cheese, or ed gein, etc.

posted 06-27-2002 03:25 PM            

I grew up there and have some fond memories but can't help but feel like the place is a dying industrial nightmare. When I was in high school there were at 4 record stores of what i would consider "Minneapolis Quality", for years there has been none (don't get me going on Atomic, the place sucks now) and now has one good store (Earwax). I always look around for shows when home and never really see much. It seems like all-ages shows, especially house shows have dwindled to almost nothing. I'd hate to be a kid there now getting into punk or indy rock...I mean how much can you hang out at FUEL.
That said, I enjoy much of the touristy stuff:
the Zoo is still one of the best in the world, the Milwauke Public Museum (the field history museum) is also outstanding (diarama-rama!) and the rotatating ethinc-fests on the summerfest grounds are great (avoid Summerfest though...at all costs) The Lake is beautiful, but I wouldn't go in it if you paid me. i am kinda psyched that it looks like that Bayview neighborhood on the southside is coming up cause the East Side is more played out than Uptown.
Yes , they did keep a lot of there old buildings, but we will see how long that lasts, the old Pabst Brewry is huge and in the way, plus they tore down a lot of shit to make the new basketball center.
Nice place to visit, wouldnt wanna live there.

posted 07-01-2002 06:52 AM            

Giant fat man: Whose pussy is it?
Skinny Lady being boned: It's yo' pussy baby!

posted 07-01-2002 10:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Noxious Bjorn:
The people there were so polite and hospitable. Everyone was singing along with our covers. It ruled. Seriously that show is why people form bands.
PBR me ASAP.

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That, to me, is Milwaukee in a nutshell!

posted 07-02-2002 08:41 AM            

I grew up here, moved to Minneapolis for 6 years, and have been back in Milwaukee for 2. There's a distinct difference in the cities, and I think that Milwaukee has changed a *ton* since I last lived here. A friend from Mpls. that came to visit last fall commented about the number of new bars and clubs and the energy - and the fact that Mpls seemed to be losing that.

I think everyone got bored, and decided to do something about it. There's some kids who put out a small club/cultural guide called info* and their passion about the city and wanting people to get out and *do stuff* is inspiring. There's an energy here now that I felt 8 years ago in Mpls.

Unfortunately, a lot of the growth has been a lot of gentrification, but that will happen. Bay View and Walkers Point are probably next on the list, although the explosive growth of the past few years has been centered around the East Side and Downtown - and there's only so many rich people who can afford the fancy new condos so I'm not sure south of the city will get ruined. I hope not. There's a place for both. (the south side is the "nordeast" of Milwaukee) I love some of the East Side bars - but love the south side ones more.

Sorry to babble - I just think it's incredible that people are raving about a place that when I lived in Minneapolis was "just a place you pass through on the way to Chicago" It's taken me a little while to get over my own memories of it being a dull stinky city.