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Topic: Rockin' around the NYC
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DEA
Punk Posts: 1424
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 11-13-2002 02:07 PM
   
I need help!!!I'm completely overwhelmed with the idea of planning mine and Hooligankat's trip to the big apple in just over a week. There is just too much to do in only 48 hours. This is what I NEED to do: Empire State Building
Times Square
CBGB'S
Chinatown
Chelsea Hotel
The Epoxies show at Arlene Grocery (Ollie, let me know if you need anything)
What I really want is suggestions for cheap-ish shopping, eating, drinking and rocking out in Manhattan and places that I really need to see as a first-time music-geek-tourist in this city. We'll be in town from 4 PM on Saturday to about 3 PM on Monday and staying on Broadway (either at E32nd or E48th). Since we'll be on foot and using public transport, addresses/directions for any places you recommend would be supercool, too.
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LEMMY
Punk Posts: 118
Registered: Apr 2002
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posted 11-13-2002 02:16 PM
I am very envious. Here are some suggestions for the rocking out/drinking part of it: Go to The Continental (punk bar) in Greenwich Village and of course, CBGB is right there, too. The record stores in that part of town are very good, so just walk around and you'll see them. In my opinion, no trip to New York is complete without getting a proper buzz on over at Handsome Dick from The Dictator's place, called "Manitoba's" near St. Mark's. The Handsome One is often right there serving drinks and calling Mexican wrestling matches in English with the sound turned down! Have fun and tell Handsome to get his ass up here again soon if you see him.IP: Logged |
The Artful Dodger
Punk Posts: 858
Registered: May 2002
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posted 11-13-2002 02:25 PM
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Originally posted by DEA:
I need help!!!I'm completely overwhelmed with the idea of planning mine and Hooligankat's trip to the big apple in just over a week. There is just too much to do in only 48 hours. This is what I NEED to do: Empire State Building
Times Square
CBGB'S
Chinatown
Chelsea Hotel
The Epoxies show at Arlene Grocery (Ollie, let me know if you need anything)
What I really want is suggestions for cheap-ish shopping, eating, drinking and rocking out in Manhattan and places that I really need to see as a first-time music-geek-tourist in this city. We'll be in town from 4 PM on Saturday to about 3 PM on Monday and staying on Broadway (either at E32nd or E48th). Since we'll be on foot and using public transport, addresses/directions for any places you recommend would be supercool, too.
Heh... Easy.. start out on Canal Street and get all those cheap Prada knock-offs and stuff... that's sort of the outer crust of Chinatown...
Then head Uptown on Broadway.. that'll bring you to Chelsea--which is in the 20's, I believe.. then keep scooting North until you hit Times Square (be sure it's nighttime, it's much cooler at night). Empire State Building is.. uhm.. in the 40's??50's?? Help me out here, people...As far as eating, you can't swing a dead cat without hitting really good cheap bistros. I think the key thing is to just be cool and not rush around like a nut to see everything.. none of the stuff you mentioned is all that far apart, and it's all on the subway lines... NYC is one of the most easily navigated cities there is...
BUT.. one thing, the street addresses don't make any sense.. always get the cross street of wherever you are going.. then give that to the cab driver. Oh! One thing about NYC.. wear comfortable shoes!! Have a great time.. I love NY. [This message has been edited by The Artful Dodger (edited 11-13-2002).] IP: Logged |
Billy V. Gan
Punk Posts: 765
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 11-13-2002 02:30 PM
I long to go to NY to see a dear friend of mine.IP: Logged |
gilligan
Punk Posts: 700
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posted 11-13-2002 02:46 PM
For free take the Staten Island ferry over and back if its nice. Also get over to the Brooklyn Side of the Brooklyn bridge and walk to Manhatten.IP: Logged |
Satans Postit Note
Lil Punk Posts: 3
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 11-13-2002 02:49 PM
waiting for ya, Mr. V Gan  IP: Logged |
Paul
Punk Posts: 487
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted 11-13-2002 03:33 PM
Dude! We played Arlene Grocery in August. Nice spot. LOTS of cool graffiti art in the surrounding Lower East Side neighborhood.Go to Junior's Deli in Brooklyn for cheesecake that tastes like Christmas! (I didn't believe it either, but it's true.) Not cheap but worth it. Don't forget to get a tattoo and a Metrocard (put a lot of $ on it right away so you don't have to keep stopping and adding more to it - really helpful when the train's coming and you have to dash down the stairs). Battery Park where you catch the ferry (it's not free anymore, though - $10 I think) has people dressed up as the Statue of Liberty and every huckster imaginable. And if it's your first time there you should check out Central Park during the day - it's a beautiful spot in the city. IP: Logged |
DEA
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Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 11-13-2002 04:03 PM
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Originally posted by Paul:
<snip>Don't forget to get a tattoo and a Metrocard.<snip>
Can we get both of these at the nearest subway station? If you mean an ink-in-your-skin tattoo, I'm pretty sure we won't have that much time. You never know, though. Maybe we'll find a 24 hour place after a night of drinking with Owen and the wife-y and all get hearts inked on our bums.... IP: Logged |
vendetta77
Punk Posts: 1139
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 11-13-2002 04:05 PM
I bet you could get RAH and Kubler to take you guys over to Sweetwater. Brooklyn Lager on tap and kick-ass jukebox.
I like Motorcity on the lower east side, too.IP: Logged |
The Artful Dodger
Punk Posts: 858
Registered: May 2002
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posted 11-13-2002 04:08 PM
I think there are some good ideas there, but I wouldn't spend time monkeying around in Brooklyn if it's your first time there and you are there for such a short period of time, IMHO.
There is plenty to do just in the area you will be staying to keep you busy for a couple weeks.
But.. if you ever stay longer, the BEST meal I ever had in my life was in Cobble Hill in Brooklyn. A place called (and I'm going to butcher the spelling here, so all you French-speakers prepare to cringe). Le Boulibasse.
Another good place to eat is by Lafette & Astor Place in NoHo and is called Riodezzio... if you like red meat. If not, head south a couple blocks to The Times Cafe.. great people watching...IP: Logged |
RAH
Punk Posts: 1610
Registered: Jun 2000
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posted 11-13-2002 04:20 PM
Here are the locations of some of the places that people have mentioned. Continental is in the East Village, St. Mark's and 3rd; Empire State Building, 5th Ave between 33rd and 34th; Manitoba's, 7th and Ave. B; Chelsea Hotel, 23rd between 7th and 8th.I recommend the Staten Island ferry as mentioned by Gilligan. Shit, where to begin. I think that tinman would recommend St. John the Devine's Cathedral at 112th and Amsterdam as would I. It is magnificent and the world's largest. Just have fun; don't try to do everything and keep a schedule, itinerary, and all that shit. IP: Logged |
DEA
Punk Posts: 1424
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 11-13-2002 04:24 PM
Hey, there, RAH! You busy from 11/23-25? We'd love to meet up for a drink and hear all about law school and living in Joisey....IP: Logged |
Billy V. Gan
Punk Posts: 765
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 11-13-2002 04:31 PM
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Originally posted by Satans Postit Note:
waiting for ya, Mr. V Gan
And Yay for Satan's postit note! IP: Logged |
knobgoblin
Punk Posts: 637
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 11-13-2002 04:58 PM
Have fun at the Epoxies! I really need to pick up their CD. Is it in distribution out here in the midwest yet?I hope you guys have a blast IP: Logged |
stinkbot
Punk Posts: 1000
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 11-13-2002 05:04 PM
all i did last time i was in new york was hang out outside of bath houses with dj and scrappy and ask people upon exit if they had a russian or turkish bath and snicker alot.
oh and buy forty's from supermarkets on credit. (i couldn't believe it either). wherever you go HAVE FUN!! New York is the best place in the world to have lots of cheap wierd fun and you can have it all night long. too bad all the sex shops in times square are gone. we'll miss you kids and we'll try not to talk too much smack in your absence.IP: Logged |
e
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Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 11-13-2002 05:57 PM
You can actually see a lot in 48 hours in NYC. My first time there, we were only there for 24 and so all of those sites you mentioned. I didn't catch if you found a place to stay, but when my friend is out of town there, I always stat at the Chelsea Int'l Hostel. They have private rooms for like $40/night. It's clean, comfortable and right between the 1/9 (7th Ave.) train and A train (8th Ave.) station on 23rd St. A cool walk from there is to go straight east through Chelsea for a few blocks (to like 5th Ave.) and then head south a few blocks to Gramercey Park. Then go back east until you get to the East Village (St. Marks is over there). A cool area of dive bars and good record stores. Then go south past Houston St. (which is the lower east side) and hang out in that area. Always fun things going on. I'll agree with whoever said to stay in Manhattan since you'll only have a short period of time. The other burroghs are definetely cool also, but not enough time.IP: Logged |
Evil Angel
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Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 11-13-2002 06:04 PM
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Originally posted by DEA:
....Maybe we'll find a 24 hour place after a night of drinking with Owen and the wife-y and all get hearts inked on our bums....
Just watch Owen's ears twitch as he drink beer. IP: Logged |
owen
Punk Posts: 1499
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 11-13-2002 07:54 PM
Ex-squeeze me?IP: Logged |
owen
Punk Posts: 1499
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posted 11-13-2002 08:06 PM
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Originally posted by DEA:
Chelsea Hotel
Dude, THIS is where we should meet. I've never been. As for the Continental, uh YUCK! CBGB's? That shit is so last year.
L7, s q u a r e man. Shit, that crap hole was last year 10 years ago. If you go, enjoy New Jersey's finest dork metal. Manitoba's rules.
Oh and Artful Dodger is totally wrong about Brooklyn. Lovely Smith Street, where I live, has become a mecca for great food and cool bars. Williamsburg is totally happening if you don't mind everyone dressing cooler than you. And I know of the joint he speaks for dinner and it is good. As for Junior's, please girlfriend (snap).
Also, Battery Park fucking rules. Plus it's right near the WTC site which makes you think `n' shit.
In terms of cheap eats, I'll bring a copy of last week's Time Out New York. They did a great feature on this exact subject. Most excellent. One idea is simpy Ray's Pizza on Prince and Sullivan cuz it's cheap and fun to watch the Eurotrash walk by. Why do the Germans always have such tight, icky jeans on? IP: Logged |
The Artful Dodger
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Registered: May 2002
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posted 11-13-2002 08:13 PM
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Originally posted by owen:
Oh and Artful Dodger is totally wrong about Brooklyn. Lovely Smith Street, where I live, has become a mecca for great food and cool bars.
Dude.. seriously...
First of all, I haven't been "wrong" since 1988.
But.. that aside.. I love Brooklyn! It's just that she has 48 hours in town.... spending it in Brooklyn would be like visiting the Twin Cities and spending all your time in Fridley.IP: Logged |
owen
Punk Posts: 1499
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posted 11-13-2002 08:22 PM
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Originally posted by The Artful Dodger:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by owen:
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Oh and Artful Dodger is totally wrong about Brooklyn. Lovely Smith Street, where I live, has become a mecca for great food and cool bars.
Dude.. seriously...
First of all, I haven't been "wrong" since 1988.
But.. that aside.. I love Brooklyn! It's just that she has 48 hours in town.... spending it in Brooklyn would be like visiting the Twin Cities and spending all your time in Fridley.[/B][/QUOTE]
Listen junior, when I want your opinion, I'll beat it out of joeschmoe . Nah, I get your point. Alas, you are wrong. It's like visiting the Twin Cities and going to Lake and Lyndale. So sheddep.
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The Artful Dodger
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posted 11-13-2002 08:35 PM
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Originally posted by owen:
Listen junior, when I want your opinion, I'll beat it out of joeschmoe .
Hahaha!
The problem with that approach is that we'll all end up having to hear about it for the next 6 months...
So.. lets just agree to disagree, then IP: Logged |
Reno
Punk Posts: 1460
Registered: Jun 2000
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posted 11-14-2002 01:52 AM
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Originally posted by The Artful Dodger:
Hahaha!
The problem with that approach is that we'll all end up having to hear about it for the next 6 months...
So.. lets just agree to disagree, then
Ok, that's the first time I've laughed out loud at TCPunk in quite a while. No offense to Joe, but that is fucking funny!
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Ollie Stench
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posted 11-14-2002 02:45 AM
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Originally posted by DEA:
This is what I NEED to do:
CBGB'S
CB's sucks these days. Don't plan on seeng a show, just go there to walk in and turn around and walk out. quote:
The Epoxies show at Arlene Grocery (Ollie, let me know if you need anything)
A size fat t-shirt would be cool. And a demo tape if they still have any. I've got the lp and the 2 7"ers. THANX! IP: Logged |
DEA
Punk Posts: 1424
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posted 11-14-2002 07:42 AM
Everything on MY list will be done during the day (except the Epoxies) so that I can say I've SEEN the places. One drink in the daylight at CB's, I promise. Sorry, Owen, but there's no way in hell I'm spending time INSIDE the Chelsea Hotel...I have a huge fear of steppin' on dirty needles. I'm thinking that loitering around it at night waiting for you and the Mrs. isn't a very safe idea, either.Thanks for the mini-walking tour listings...that's a great idea. Any more food or drinking recommendations that are in Manhattan? Did ANY of you shop when you were there? Ollie - One XXL T-shirt and (if possible) one demo tape, coming right up. Do you have any of their stuff on disc at the moment? I'd sure like a copy of it to "practice" on before buying my own....  IP: Logged |
The Artful Dodger
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posted 11-14-2002 08:11 AM
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Originally posted by DEA:
Thanks for the mini-walking tour listings...that's a great idea. Any more food or drinking recommendations that are in Manhattan? Did ANY of you shop when you were there?
Well, again, Canal St. is pretty cool--be prepared to haggle a little bit. You can get designer knock-offs and stuff there. Frequently there are little street fairs and bazaars and stuff on the weekends just about anywhere. those are fun and good places to shop.
If Daffy's is still there, that is a pretty cool place to shop, too. It's like you died and went to Discount Heaven.As far as food goes, everybody is going to have an opinion.. I have my favorite places too (Riodezzio, The Times, Acme Garage, The Hi-Life, La Boulibasse).. but I think rather than running all over town looking for a place somebody else likes, just pick a place that you like--almost all of them post their menus by their front door. There are so many places to eat that everybody here, combined, has probably eaten at about 1% of them all. Hell, you could spend a month just checking out the places to eat in SoHo alone. I'd go to places that serve stuff you can't get here.. decent French food or whatever. Oh.. and NYC is a lot safer than people think. I've found you have to be more careful of sticky fingers or scams than getting outright mugged, as even late at night the streets are pretty busy. I think you just have to use common sense when you walk around at night. You guys are going to have so much fun! IP: Logged |
RAH
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posted 11-14-2002 08:17 AM
I don't know how free I will be that weekend. I will have a lot of work to do, but I might try to make it to the Epoxies show. Drop me a line and we'll see what happens. Also, I don't believe that CBGB's is open during the day, unless there is a matinee show; CB's Gallery might be open.IP: Logged |
owen
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posted 11-14-2002 10:28 AM
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Originally posted by DEA:
Sorry, Owen, but there's no way in hell I'm spending time INSIDE the Chelsea Hotel...I have a huge fear of steppin' on dirty needles.
There's a bar in the basement silly. And if there's any needles there, it's on a turntable. Needles, this isn't 1988 sistuh. IP: Logged |
vendetta77
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posted 11-14-2002 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by The Artful Dodger:
If Daffy's is still there, that is a pretty cool place to shop, too. It's like you died and went to Discount Heaven.[/B]
Daffy's RULES! I think there's one in SoHo on Broadway maybe?...
Also, hot REAL designer brands (Betsy Johnson, Versace, etc.) for decent prices at Century 21 in the financial district... IP: Logged |
DEA
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posted 11-14-2002 10:52 AM
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Originally posted by vendetta77:
Daffy's RULES! I think there's one in SoHo on Broadway maybe?...
Also, hot REAL designer brands (Betsy Johnson, Versace, etc.) for decent prices at Century 21 in the financial district...
Century 21 is SO on my list for shopping. Owen - I didn't know the Chelsea had changed...I only know it's sorrid history. If the music's good and the cover is low to no, I'm good to go. IP: Logged |
Captain Swing
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Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 11-14-2002 11:11 AM
CBGB really does blow, but you can't argue with historical cachet/making a pilgrimage. As far as bars go, I'm a big fan of Drinkland (crazy decor, including a futuristic "white room" you've gotta see to believe; Lower East Side; 10th between Avenue A and Avenue B) and Gonzalez y Gonzalez (awesome margaritas; giant sombrero outside; right off the Broadway-Lafayette subway stop). You don't have to go all the way to Brooklyn to eat Junior's cheesecake--there's an outlet in the Grand Central food court--but the Brooklyn location is really worth seeing. Another great deli is Katz's (see Dara Moskowitz's column last week in City Pages; she's not kidding about the pastrami). It's close to the Lower East Side Tenement Museum, which I can't recommend highly enough. Up until last Thursday, my sis lived on the Upper West Side, so a lot of the way I see the city comes from that perspective--if you can make it up to 89th and Amsterdam, there's awesome Cuban Chinese food at a place called La Caridad. And I dig the cheap sushi and all the other asian cuisines under the sun available at Empire Szechuan (96th and Broadway)--the Creaky Chicken there is great, as is the Empire State Roll. There's also a White Castle by the Empire State Building, if, like me, you go for that kind of thing. FAO Schwartz (58th and 5th, I believe) is worth a visit, and there's a Sanrio shop, and a really cool three-story comic book store, right off Times Square. One more thing to watch out for: Battery Park has the filthiest public bathrooms I've ever seen, so go before you go, if you know what I'm saying. IP: Logged |
DEA
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posted 11-14-2002 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by Captain Swing:
<snip>Gonzalez y Gonzalez (awesome margaritas; giant sombrero outside; right off the Broadway-Lafayette subway stop).I really like Margaritas.... Another great deli is Katz's (see Dara Moskowitz's column last week in City Pages; she's not kidding about the pastrami). It's close to the Lower East Side Tenement Museum, which I can't recommend highly enough. Another reason to go to Katz's...I read that there is a free Sunday walking tour focused on shopping in the lower east side and it starts there. Up until last Thursday, my sis lived on the Upper West Side, so a lot of the way I see the city comes from that perspective--if you can make it up to 89th and Amsterdam, there's awesome Cuban Chinese food at a place called La Caridad. And I dig the cheap sushi and all the other asian cuisines under the sun available at Empire Szechuan (96th and Broadway)--the Creaky Chicken there is great, as is the Empire State Roll. There's also a White Castle by the Empire State Building, if, like me, you go for that kind of thing. FAO Schwartz (58th and 5th, I believe) is worth a visit, and there's a Sanrio shop, and a really cool three-story comic book store, right off Times Square.
Thnkas much, everyone, for your input. I'm gonna print this out next Friday and take it with me...as a security blanket. IP: Logged |
HooliganKat
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posted 11-14-2002 11:26 AM
Good Lord, I'm going on this trip and just found this thread. Don't worry Ms. Dea, as I've stated before I spent about 3 weeks there a few years ago, so I know my way around pretty well. Also Owen, since I'm coming out to your turf, I promise to be nice  [This message has been edited by HooliganKat (edited 11-14-2002).] IP: Logged |
tinman
Punk Posts: 331
Registered: Apr 2002
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posted 11-14-2002 11:47 AM
man oh man,
how you going to pack all this in 48 hours?
i suggest right away getting a map.
i got a great one called "streetwise manhattan"
and i use it regularly every trip.
you can get 'em at the corner newsstand.
i'd go see some things that might not be there
next time like the big hole in the ground, little italy and cbgb's.
the staten island ferry is a must, but will eat up a big chunk of time.
the cathedral church of st. john the devine may not be everyones cup of tea,
but walking into it is pretty amazing and it's filled with interesting art.
it's an easy subway ride as well.
for fun take a cab back downtown and promise him
a ten spot to "step-on-it" (as if it's not terrifying enough normally)
new york is "safer" than ten years ago, but my last trip saw me dodging badguys twice.
be careful out there and have a blast. i'm envious.
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HooliganKat
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posted 11-14-2002 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by tinman:
man oh man,
how you going to pack all this in 48 hours?
i suggest right away getting a map.
i got a great one called "streetwise manhattan"
YES, I have this! I as well lived by it. IP: Logged |
Evil Angel
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posted 11-14-2002 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by owen:
Ex-squeeze me?
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Kubler
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posted 11-14-2002 02:04 PM
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Originally posted by The Artful Dodger:
I think there are some good ideas there, but I wouldn't spend time monkeying around in Brooklyn ...
brooklyn is the new manhattan. dea, these are all very doable. if at all possible try and do the empire state building on a weekday. from there, just bust over to times square. you can easily hoof it. that should take up a few hours tops. make sure to pop in to tad's steaks and tell them i said what's up. get on the 7th ave line (1,2,3,9) and get off at 23rd. i think the chelsea is between 7th aand 8th on 23rd. hop on the A,C,E down to canal, rock china town, and then walk back up to the LES. arlene's is on stanton and orchard, right? cb's is on bleeker and bowery. same hood (pretty much). you could do all this in a day. now you've got a day to hit the bridges, brooklyn, etc. IP: Logged |
trailerdiva
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Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 11-15-2002 02:03 PM
You should check out the punk rock aerobic class at CBGB's Saturday morning and report back to us.And Tulip Sweet is playing Saturday night at Pete's Candy Store
709 lorimer street - Williamsburg, Brooklyn (718) 302 - 3770
with The King of France If you're interested in that you can email Steph ahead for easy directions, my friend Al has been there to see them and she got there no problem in a wheelchair. tulip@tulipsweet.com IP: Logged |
Kubler
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posted 11-15-2002 03:22 PM
not to digress, but i saw the tulip sweet show at pedro's last weekend and it was fantastic. i don't ever remember her being that funny. pete's candy store is a great place to see something like that, too. cool bar.IP: Logged |
user_1134
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posted 11-15-2002 03:25 PM
Go to Hell's Kitchen and tell them I sent you.IP: Logged |
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